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1 posted on 05/30/2008 2:00:59 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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Will this lead to the eventual demise of Governor Perry? Just how much is this going to cost the state of Texas anyway? And then the lawsuits...


2 posted on 05/30/2008 2:04:18 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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Good to see the kids being returned home.

There needs to be a full accounting of this from the top down in CPS and whoever was responsible for this debacle needs to spend jail time (if CPS broke the law).

Now hopefully the investigators will get on with the job of investigating and stop this namby pamby feel good crap about getting the chilluns away from their evil parents.

I also hope this slap down of CPS reverberates across the country and puts the rest of the jerks in the different state CPS offices on notice.

No more.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 2:06:25 PM PDT by tueffelhunden
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CPS is sure doing some serious backpedaling now.

And note that this is only a 'proposed' agreement meaning it ain't worth squat.

L

5 posted on 05/30/2008 2:07:38 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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I guess as long as they’re only boinking teenagers it should be okay. I draw the line, however, at the pre-pubescent. As long as the law doesn’t go barging in like a bull in a china shop. People have rights, you know.


6 posted on 05/30/2008 2:09:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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The order should have been “returned forthwith”, even if it meant the social services had to stay up nights and a holiday weekend to get those children back home.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 2:20:12 PM PDT by TomGuy
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From the article: "The agreement is being discussed ..."

The parents' lawyers should recognize that they have the upper hand at this moment. The CPS was shot down, in part, because there is no way that a "one-size-fits-all" taking of the children could be justified. The same is true of any "one-size-fits-all" parental agreements.

The parents should insist on the return of the children and have their day in court to decide on particular agreements. The Texas Supreme Court decision does not mean that the parents must agree to anything at all. All the next steps must be justified by the CPS.

15 posted on 05/30/2008 2:28:21 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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According to info posted here some weeks back by a local Freeper, the FLDS members refused to voluntarily submit DNA in order to establish who the parents of the children exactly were, in order to remain shielded from rape charges. However, Texas being a state that does not require a birth certificate for home births...the parents cannot then claim they are the parents, unless some kind of proof is offered. If they cannot claim they are the parents, at that point the children would then be wards of the state, as I understood what was posted.

If that’s the case, there’s a lot more going on than meets the eye, it would seem.


18 posted on 05/30/2008 2:33:35 PM PDT by One-Four-Five
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I understand the parents wanting to get their children back, but at this point I wouldn’t agree to give cps anything.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 2:38:31 PM PDT by firewalk
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From another article:

A draft agreement released by CPS attorney Gary Banks says the parents can get their children back after showing identification and pledging to take parenting classes and remain in Texas.

The agreement was reached with 38 mothers of 124 children who filed the complaint that prompted the Texas Supreme Court’s ruling Thursday.

The agreement does not specify that the fathers must stay away, and it allows the children to return to the ranch run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Eldorado, about 40 miles south of San Angelo.

Texas District Judge Barbara Walther made revisions to the deal, and attorneys on both sides were reviewing them Friday afternoon.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/Polygamist_Retreat.html


21 posted on 05/30/2008 2:44:59 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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I’m thinking such an agreement amounts to a defacto admission of guilt for the FLDS. Why would they agree to this? I suspect their lawyers are going to push back....


25 posted on 05/30/2008 3:03:52 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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“Parenting” classes ...

1. Where radical feminists will teach them the joys of tolerating trans-gendered-homo-lesbian perversion.

2. But will have no effect on middle-aged men raping 14 year old girls.


26 posted on 05/30/2008 3:05:22 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Agreement, Hell!

The TxSC ordered the children’s return. It damned sure didn’t order continued CPS intrusion into their lives.

Make criminal cases against the criminals. Leave innocent children alone.


29 posted on 05/30/2008 3:18:45 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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A copy of the order, obtained by the Deseret News, seeks to have children returned to their parents beginning Monday.

What is this "beginning Monday" crock?

Why can't the children be returned beginning TODAY, with every single CPS employee pulling unpaid overtime this weekend and every day until the children are all with their families? No more than 10 minutes of potty break every 3 hours, all hands working 24 hours per day.

I could return them in less than one day -- bus all the children and all the parents back to the ranch, and they will sort themselves out in less than an hour.

Make CPS and all law enforcement stay more than 1 mile from the ranch.

32 posted on 05/30/2008 3:36:13 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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the judge still hasn't released the children
(i can almost hear the sound of the judge dragging her feet)
53 posted on 05/30/2008 4:25:23 PM PDT by firewalk
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The proposed agreement also requires parents to complete parenting classes compulsory government re-education camp , so that the CPS government brown shirts can save face.
62 posted on 05/30/2008 4:38:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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