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Obama Talks of Family's Military Service (Family liberated Auschwitz...Yeahhhhh)
Cbs News ^ | May 26, 2008 | Maria Gavrilovic

Posted on 05/27/2008 11:48:44 AM PDT by PA Engineer

“My grandfather marched in Patton’s army, but I cannot know what it is to walk into battle like so many of you,” he told a small group of veterans here

Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; barackhusseinobama; dnctalkingpoints; fakebutaccurate; leftards; lendmeyourears; obama; obamagaffe; obamalies; obamatruthfile; obambi; phonysoldiers; revisionisthistory; seebs; sovietredarmy; unclejoestalin
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To: Grampa Dave

You have me ROFLMAO.


141 posted on 05/27/2008 2:34:32 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: PA Engineer

Now the Obama campaign is saying that it was one of the camps at Buchenwald and that it was his grandmother’s brother.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obamas_World_War_II_history.html#comments


142 posted on 05/27/2008 2:36:34 PM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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To: keepitreal

The Obama campaign says it was indeed Payne in the 89th ID:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obamas_World_War_II_history.html


143 posted on 05/27/2008 2:38:18 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: GoldenPup
Don't usually answer myself, but I guess this would be an opportune time to say, "I told you so". Yep, more politician's Bullsh!t, it turns out a few hours later. Of course, NOW the story has changed.

Yeah?? Right?? Sure?? No...more Bullsh!t, as usual !!!

144 posted on 05/27/2008 2:39:30 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: TornadoAlley3

Well it now appears it may simply Obama who doesn’t know enough or doesn’t care to be able to relate the story accurately.

CNN story refers to statement from Obama camp that says it was a great-uncle serving in the 89th Infantry Division, liberating one of the sub-camps at Buchenwald. That does seem to be borne out in the division history, IF the Obama campaign is now accurate about the great-uncle and IF said great-uncle was actually there:

http://www.89infdivww2.org/ohrdruf/ohrdrufintro.htm

Be prepared for the push-back as the Demagogues and the MSM scream “how could you dare to question the heroic tale of a liberator of Buchenwald?”

The real question should be

“HOW COULD OBAMA BE SO CARELESS AND INACCURATE ABOUT EVENTS OF SUCH ENORMOUS MORAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE?”

He has botched this story in both 2002 and 2008, that we know about. At the very least it is fair to say he knows nothing about the history of the liberation of Europe in 1945.


145 posted on 05/27/2008 2:45:50 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: Godwin1

my cracker uncle was in europe and fought under patton...maybe his cracker uncle knew my cracker uncle


146 posted on 05/27/2008 3:02:29 PM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Enchante

“At the very least it is fair to say he knows nothing about the history of the liberation of Europe in 1945.”

Or the history of his family. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if his campaign folks find stuff like this and give it to Obama on the plane ride to the next speech. (”Oh wait - TOMMORROW is Memorial Day? Quick, find something in his family’s history about WAR”.)

Would account for the uncle vs. great uncle. Aushwitz (famous) vs. Buchenwald (not quite so famous), etc. Sort of like giving the answers on a pop-quiz.


147 posted on 05/27/2008 3:03:17 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Enchante

I hear he has another uncle who fought the Germans when they bombed Pearl Harbor


148 posted on 05/27/2008 3:09:00 PM PDT by kidd
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To: 21twelve

As someone else said on a related thread, at this point we very well might wonder if in fact the Payne family home even had an attic.


149 posted on 05/27/2008 3:09:46 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Earthdweller

Amazingly, a Dem Dingbat on Fox earlier claimed this speech wasn’t given to burnish his national security or foreign relations credentials. He’s going to win on the economy alone! (where do they find these people?)


150 posted on 05/27/2008 3:15:49 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: Lumper20

It is fun and the natural order of things to laugh at this clown.


151 posted on 05/27/2008 3:18:14 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein Obama"Hama's" Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Enchante

According to Ancestry.com Obama’s missing gramma had one brother Charles W. Payne, born about 1924. No record of a Charles W. Payne enlisting or being inducted in Kansas during WWII. Unless he left Kansas at 18 or so.

http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=1036&branch=A

Just call me a bit skeptical. Once a fibber, always a fibber.


152 posted on 05/27/2008 3:27:06 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: ltc8k6

Brings this to mind:
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, and that’s all that Bobby left me, yeah
But feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
Hey feeling good was good enough for me, hmm-mm
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.


153 posted on 05/27/2008 3:29:19 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Grampa Dave

One has to laugh at this fool, as he pulls relatives from wood piles that make no sense to anyone with an ounce of common sense.


154 posted on 05/27/2008 3:46:55 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Taffini

LOL. 6 Months in an attic.

Man, talk about political convenience.
He comes up with this story while talking about PTSD.


155 posted on 05/27/2008 3:52:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Philo-Junius

It was an attic before it was a basement.


156 posted on 05/27/2008 3:54:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: PA Engineer
On January 27, 1945, the Soviet army entered Auschwitz and liberated more than 7,000 remaining prisoners, who were mostly ill and dying.

Americans did not liberate Auschwitz. Buchenwald we liberated.

157 posted on 05/27/2008 3:59:12 PM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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To: keepitreal; padre35
My dad was born in 1924, and he was one of the youngest guys in his unit in N. Africa and Italy. Went in in 1942, got out in 46 or 47, not sure which. So Charles Payne was of an age to serve, especially if he enlisted late in the war.

If he was Section 8'd and living in the attic, there ought to be some record of it somewhere. I'm sure gramma (if she can hear from under the bus there) is going to be real proud of her grandson for throwing her poor brother under the bus too.

158 posted on 05/27/2008 4:11:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: keepitreal

I wouldn’t hang the whole story on account of an incorrect initial, since there are other Charles Paynes listed from Kansas, but I think the whole “the only good veteran is a traumatised veteran” trope the Democrats are attempting is shameful.

If Obama wants to inject his family history as evidence, we ought to be able to examine the record.


159 posted on 05/27/2008 4:22:44 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: keepitreal

Probably Obama’s ancestor is Chester W. Payne:

Payne, Chester L. Inducted 31 January 1945, Army 37760745 Registered, order # 12622-A Wichita, Sedgwick Co. (Board # 3)

Sedgwick County is where Obama’s grandfather lived, according to Ancestry.com.

First Draft of Ancestry of Obama:
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

His grandfather:
Stanley Armour Dunham, salesman, born Kansas, 23 March 1918, d. Honolulu, Hawaii, 8 Feb. 1992 [SSDI 514-03-4824], bur. Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii
marr. 5 May 1940

Here is the WWI Draft Registration of Obama’s grandfather:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wwiienlist&h=4719327&ti=0&indiv=try

BTW, my husband is related to Obama, through the Allred line from Overton County TN.


160 posted on 05/27/2008 4:25:36 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant has fallen and it can't get up.)
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