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To: Enchante

According to Ancestry.com Obama’s missing gramma had one brother Charles W. Payne, born about 1924. No record of a Charles W. Payne enlisting or being inducted in Kansas during WWII. Unless he left Kansas at 18 or so.

http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=1036&branch=A

Just call me a bit skeptical. Once a fibber, always a fibber.


152 posted on 05/27/2008 3:27:06 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal; padre35
My dad was born in 1924, and he was one of the youngest guys in his unit in N. Africa and Italy. Went in in 1942, got out in 46 or 47, not sure which. So Charles Payne was of an age to serve, especially if he enlisted late in the war.

If he was Section 8'd and living in the attic, there ought to be some record of it somewhere. I'm sure gramma (if she can hear from under the bus there) is going to be real proud of her grandson for throwing her poor brother under the bus too.

158 posted on 05/27/2008 4:11:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: keepitreal

I wouldn’t hang the whole story on account of an incorrect initial, since there are other Charles Paynes listed from Kansas, but I think the whole “the only good veteran is a traumatised veteran” trope the Democrats are attempting is shameful.

If Obama wants to inject his family history as evidence, we ought to be able to examine the record.


159 posted on 05/27/2008 4:22:44 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: keepitreal

Probably Obama’s ancestor is Chester W. Payne:

Payne, Chester L. Inducted 31 January 1945, Army 37760745 Registered, order # 12622-A Wichita, Sedgwick Co. (Board # 3)

Sedgwick County is where Obama’s grandfather lived, according to Ancestry.com.

First Draft of Ancestry of Obama:
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

His grandfather:
Stanley Armour Dunham, salesman, born Kansas, 23 March 1918, d. Honolulu, Hawaii, 8 Feb. 1992 [SSDI 514-03-4824], bur. Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii
marr. 5 May 1940

Here is the WWI Draft Registration of Obama’s grandfather:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wwiienlist&h=4719327&ti=0&indiv=try

BTW, my husband is related to Obama, through the Allred line from Overton County TN.


160 posted on 05/27/2008 4:25:36 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant has fallen and it can't get up.)
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To: keepitreal
Charles W Payne of Wyandotte County Kansas enlisted into the Navy, Nov 10 1942.
177 posted on 05/27/2008 9:50:58 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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