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Appeasement Nation: Should You Resist An Attacker?
The Bulletin ^ | 05/27/2008 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 05/27/2008 9:04:40 AM PDT by William Tell 2

First in a series.

Has America become a nation of appeasers?

For at least a generation now, gun control advocates, many police officials and some academicians have advised citizens to "give the criminal what he wants and you won't get hurt." This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; elections; liberals; obama; selfdefense; tremoglie
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1 posted on 05/27/2008 9:04:41 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

If viable, take out the threat whenever possible.


2 posted on 05/27/2008 9:11:46 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: William Tell 2

What if what he wants is no witnesses?


3 posted on 05/27/2008 9:12:11 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: William Tell 2

Isnt this a stupid question when we have a 1/3 million all-volunteer troops overseas fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?


4 posted on 05/27/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: William Tell 2

This is typical liberal fantasy land thinking. If someone wants to “give him what he wants” fine with me. That’s your choice. I will give him three rounds from my SIG 229 in 357. Two in the heart and one in the head. Have a nice day.


5 posted on 05/27/2008 9:15:36 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: William Tell 2

> For at least a generation now, gun control advocates, many police officials and some academicians have advised citizens to “give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.” This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.

I have yet to meet a victim of crime who followed this “advice” AND walked away from the crime safe and unscathed.

IMO you should always, always resist. And make as much noise as you possibly can.


6 posted on 05/27/2008 9:17:50 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: William Tell 2

“give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.”

Yeah, like giving the Muslim his free foot baths, priviliges other religions do not enjoy, tell him that his is a religion of peace hoping that you’ll be the last one to get his throat cut.


7 posted on 05/27/2008 9:17:58 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: silverleaf

Nope. Those are the “sheepdogs” of society. Asking that question of them would be stupid, but unfortunately they are a small minority of the overall population. The real question is whether the rest of the population has decended into abject appeasement — to criminals, gov’t abuse, islam, etc., etc. — just like most of Old Europe. That is a very important question. (My belief is that some have, some haven’t, and it’s far to close to a 50/50 split to be comfortable about it.)


8 posted on 05/27/2008 9:18:59 AM PDT by piytar
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To: mikeus_maximus; William Tell 2; Clemenza
What if what he wants is no witnesses?

Great idea! It's better to kill an attacker. That way only one side of the story gets told to the police.

9 posted on 05/27/2008 9:19:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: William Tell 2

Shouldn’t it be left to the individual?


10 posted on 05/27/2008 9:20:02 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: William Tell 2

Give the criminal what he wants? Rather, give the criminal what he deserves.

Every appeasement in history resulted in mass oppression, death, and eventually major war.

Just as the bully in the 5th grade needed to be set right, rogue persons on our streets need to be told in the most affirmative tone possible, NO. Dictators, Tyrants and usurpers alike need to be swiftly and decisively isolated and or removed.

Criminals (wolves) prey only on citizens that APPEAR weaker (Sheep) or unaware and therefore defensless.

Walk tall, be assertive, look at people without being inimidating, carry the largest caliber most powerful firearm you can use effectively and be free (a Sheepdog).

The rest is BS.

God Bless & Molon Labe


11 posted on 05/27/2008 9:21:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: William Tell 2
This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.

Much, much easier than reducing crimes, of course...

12 posted on 05/27/2008 9:22:27 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: mosaicwolf

I prefer a Taurus “Judge” which shoots either 410GA or .45LC. I have first cylinder loaded with the 410GA followed by the .45’s.....


13 posted on 05/27/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi is an anti-American traitor.)
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To: William Tell 2
"give the criminal what he wants and you won't get hurt."

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14 posted on 05/27/2008 9:23:25 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: William Tell 2


15 posted on 05/27/2008 9:24:27 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: William Tell 2

Non-violent methods only work when you are dealing with a person or group who is willing to work with you on those terms. Non-violence worked in India because the British would not allow themselves to be perceived as the ones perpetuating the violence. Once the worlds cameras focused on American, non-violence worked for the same reason. In both cases, a calculated gamble was made as to the non-violent tendencies of the opponent. Such a gamble would not have worked with Hitler who believed that public perception was only temporary and could be molded after he got his way. This is the same problem one faces with Islamists and criminals who both believe the end justifies the means.


16 posted on 05/27/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Good point.....along with that, they can’t be turned loose by liberal judges in the court system.


17 posted on 05/27/2008 9:28:28 AM PDT by RC2
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To: William Tell 2

Demand silver.

Receive lead.


18 posted on 05/27/2008 9:28:40 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: contemplator

Once the worlds cameras focused on American,

Should have been -

Once the worlds cameras focused on the American civil rights movement,


19 posted on 05/27/2008 9:29:06 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: William Tell 2

“give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.”

What if what he wants is you?

Morons.


20 posted on 05/27/2008 9:29:30 AM PDT by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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