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1 posted on 05/27/2008 9:04:41 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

If viable, take out the threat whenever possible.


2 posted on 05/27/2008 9:11:46 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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What if what he wants is no witnesses?


3 posted on 05/27/2008 9:12:11 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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Isnt this a stupid question when we have a 1/3 million all-volunteer troops overseas fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?


4 posted on 05/27/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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This is typical liberal fantasy land thinking. If someone wants to “give him what he wants” fine with me. That’s your choice. I will give him three rounds from my SIG 229 in 357. Two in the heart and one in the head. Have a nice day.


5 posted on 05/27/2008 9:15:36 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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> For at least a generation now, gun control advocates, many police officials and some academicians have advised citizens to “give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.” This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.

I have yet to meet a victim of crime who followed this “advice” AND walked away from the crime safe and unscathed.

IMO you should always, always resist. And make as much noise as you possibly can.


6 posted on 05/27/2008 9:17:50 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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“give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.”

Yeah, like giving the Muslim his free foot baths, priviliges other religions do not enjoy, tell him that his is a religion of peace hoping that you’ll be the last one to get his throat cut.


7 posted on 05/27/2008 9:17:58 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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Shouldn’t it be left to the individual?


10 posted on 05/27/2008 9:20:02 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: William Tell 2

Give the criminal what he wants? Rather, give the criminal what he deserves.

Every appeasement in history resulted in mass oppression, death, and eventually major war.

Just as the bully in the 5th grade needed to be set right, rogue persons on our streets need to be told in the most affirmative tone possible, NO. Dictators, Tyrants and usurpers alike need to be swiftly and decisively isolated and or removed.

Criminals (wolves) prey only on citizens that APPEAR weaker (Sheep) or unaware and therefore defensless.

Walk tall, be assertive, look at people without being inimidating, carry the largest caliber most powerful firearm you can use effectively and be free (a Sheepdog).

The rest is BS.

God Bless & Molon Labe


11 posted on 05/27/2008 9:21:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.

Much, much easier than reducing crimes, of course...

12 posted on 05/27/2008 9:22:27 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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"give the criminal what he wants and you won't get hurt."

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14 posted on 05/27/2008 9:23:25 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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15 posted on 05/27/2008 9:24:27 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Non-violent methods only work when you are dealing with a person or group who is willing to work with you on those terms. Non-violence worked in India because the British would not allow themselves to be perceived as the ones perpetuating the violence. Once the worlds cameras focused on American, non-violence worked for the same reason. In both cases, a calculated gamble was made as to the non-violent tendencies of the opponent. Such a gamble would not have worked with Hitler who believed that public perception was only temporary and could be molded after he got his way. This is the same problem one faces with Islamists and criminals who both believe the end justifies the means.


16 posted on 05/27/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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Demand silver.

Receive lead.


18 posted on 05/27/2008 9:28:40 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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“give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.”

What if what he wants is you?

Morons.


20 posted on 05/27/2008 9:29:30 AM PDT by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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“He told me that he routinely advises citizens to acquiesce to the demands of the criminal to lessen the risk of violence and, instead, to make an appeal to the criminal’s humanity.”

Unfortunately, he doesn’t go quite far enough. The right thing to do, of course, is immediately to hand over your wallet and car keys; then get down on your knees; kiss his feet; beg for mercy; and offer him your wife, your house, your first-born child, and half your salary for the rest of your life. How could that fail to appeal to the ‘humanity’ of a criminal?


21 posted on 05/27/2008 9:30:19 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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I believe that decent people have a moral obligation to resist criminals.

The "police officials" these articles usually refer to are usually Chiefs of Police, who are nothing but political lapdogs for urban Mayors. "Academics" can simply go to hell. They're such scum anymore they are not worth considering.

22 posted on 05/27/2008 9:31:36 AM PDT by VR-21
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>For at least a generation now, gun control advocates, many police officials and some academicians have advised citizens to “give the criminal what he wants and you won’t get hurt.” This viewpoint began permeating society as a way of reducing violence during crimes.<

Think about this for a moment. Isn’t this the law that is held by the Courts in England to be the only acceptable behavior?

For that reason alone I will never believe that it is a well reasoned or effective one. I have watched violent crime in England rise to unheard of levels. Knife crimes are at unimaginable levels now that firearms are forbidden across that nation.

Sorry, but I will never support socialism in any manner. That’s is probably why I cannot find the weakness in me to vote for McCain.


23 posted on 05/27/2008 9:38:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Winston Churchill said, "Americans always do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.)
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Bang!

A Nation of Cowards

Pacifism: The Ultimate Immorality

Why the Gun is Civilization

24 posted on 05/27/2008 9:38:41 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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give the criminal what he wants and you won't get hurt."

I believe in giving them something to remember me by

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25 posted on 05/27/2008 9:41:20 AM PDT by Snurple
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“give the criminal what he wants and you won't get hurt.”

How soon people forget. Sounds like a rework of “Be quiet and sit down. Don't do anything or you will endanger your self and airplane. They have met our demands and we are returning to the airport”

Giving the criminal what he wants worked real well for flights 11,77 and 175./s Even though United 93 perished the Capitol was spared and lives ultimately saved.

28 posted on 05/27/2008 9:50:19 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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