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Karl Rove: U.S. Cannot Secure Border
You Tube ^ | 6 December 2006 | Karl Rove (via C SPAn)

Posted on 05/27/2008 8:29:00 AM PDT by shrinkermd

A good deal of what is posted on FR is based on misreading of the facts or outright xenophobia. Anyone who speaks on this subject should have some facts and understanding of the issues and solutions.

Karl Rove did this in December 2006. The You Tube presentation at CSPAN can be found: HERE.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; bordersecurity; duer; immigrantlist; immigration; karlrove; propaganda; roveheartshillary
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To: shrinkermd

“Anecdotal, but, I suspect, more common in this particular trade. Incidentally, I asked why he didn’t hire HS and college students; his reply, “you must be kidding...no way are they going to do heavy labor, on a roof in the 90 degree sun.” (paraphrased)”

Tell that to the thousands of our kids in Iraq, Afghanistan and who knows where else. He sounds a bit like McCain.

April, 2006 SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: “ My friends, I’ll offer anybody here $50 an hour if you’ll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for whole season. So — OK? Sign up. OK. When you sign up — you sign up, and you’ll be there for the whole season. The whole season, OK? Not just one day. Because you can’t do it, my friend. Sign up.”

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121 posted on 05/27/2008 11:55:54 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: shrinkermd

Rove stinks.


122 posted on 05/27/2008 12:02:26 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred Thompson 08)
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To: reagan_fanatic

The outrage will occur - but only after a nuke (that was smuggled across the border) explodes in Tucson or Tulsa or Little Rock.


123 posted on 05/27/2008 12:07:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: AuntB

While he was still a presidential bitwig, Rove went to La Raza and reassured this racist organization that US laws would NOT be enforced—that invaders would go scot-free.

Yes, Rove actually told La Raza “US laws were not enforced to help people who come here for a better life.”

It was Karl Rove who recently told the Aspen Institute that Americans’ resistance to the amnesty bill was driven mainly by “fear” about policing the border — and that “amnesty” for illegal workers already here would not be the last (any more than the 1986 amnesty had been).


124 posted on 05/27/2008 12:36:59 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: shrinkermd

Rove misrepresents some facts in that video.

He wants credit for apprehending more border crossers, but never mentions how many they have missed and allowed across. He never reveals when they began to increase border arrests.

He says, in Dec 2006, that they are building a fence with all those features he talks about, but fails to mention that the fence bill had just passed a few months before that, and construction on the fence had not yet begun.

He wants credit for large raids on companies hiring illegals, but fails to mention that they did all that only after being forced to do so by a massive outpouring of public opinion against their previous record of very little prosecution of companies hiring illegals for the first six years of the administration.

No, I don’t trust Karl Rove to accurately assess the feasibility of securing the border. To Rove’s assertion that we cannot secure the border, I say, “Nuts!” More than that, I say, “Yes, we can.”

To your charge of xenophobia, I say, “Prove it.”


125 posted on 05/27/2008 12:38:06 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Liz
**** Karl Rove.......nicknamed “know-it-all.” ***

I've got a nickname for him but its not that. Though it does consist of three words. The last two are: 'for brains'.

126 posted on 05/27/2008 12:46:31 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: savedbygrace

Maybe, you just have.


127 posted on 05/27/2008 12:47:36 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Liz

With charges like that you need a source to remain credible.


128 posted on 05/27/2008 12:49:42 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

If you are not up to date on FR news threads, don’t take it out on me.

Ever hear of a search?


129 posted on 05/27/2008 1:00:22 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Condor51

Heheh-—good one.


130 posted on 05/27/2008 1:01:22 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Liz

For such a ‘smart’ man, he still doesn’t know the difference between LEGAL immigrants and ILLEGAL aliens.


131 posted on 05/27/2008 1:11:15 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: JoJo Gunn; shrinkermd

I just find it odd that you would be accusing someone of being a DU plant that had been here for the better part of a decade. I always thought the mods were more on the ball than that.


132 posted on 05/27/2008 1:15:08 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

If the powers that be put as much effort into doing the will of the people on issues like these that they do in trying to FIGHT the will of the people....my goodness what a nation we would have. I am of the firm belief that BOTH major parties have NO interest in actually SOLVING any problem(s) facing this nation, they just want the issues so that they may scare the voters back onto their respective plantations every 2-4 years.


133 posted on 05/27/2008 1:19:45 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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self-ping


134 posted on 05/27/2008 1:21:51 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: MplsSteve

If the erstwhile “neocons” are still in power, the United States will respond to that attack by immediately invading Canada.


135 posted on 05/27/2008 1:22:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: Grunthor
I always thought the mods were more on the ball than that.

That's your opinion, of course, and you know what they say about opinions.

Ever heard of "sleepers"?

I'm not saying shrinkermod is one, though his throwing around the buzzwords like "xenophobia" and "Limbaugh's cyst", "global warming", et al, (the type of stuff you're usually accustomed to seeing on liberal sites), gives you pause.

Actually, the more I think of the pandering of the GOP, all the Big Tent idiocy, and the McCainiacs, maybe I shouldn't have said a word.

136 posted on 05/27/2008 1:45:25 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: shrinkermd
There is not a piece of property that can be made 100% secure.

We could be doing a damn sight better than we are at the present time.

137 posted on 05/27/2008 1:50:24 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: shrinkermd

How do you figure that?


138 posted on 05/27/2008 2:02:36 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: shrinkermd
A good deal of what is posted on FR is based on misreading of the facts or outright xenophobia.


139 posted on 05/27/2008 2:57:40 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Kimberly GG
For such a ‘smart’ man, Rove still doesn’t know the difference between LEGAL immigrants and ILLEGAL aliens.

Well, if he read FR more closely he'd learn..........fast.

140 posted on 05/27/2008 3:02:24 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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