Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs

Daily Mail UK ^ | 27th May 2008 | David Derbyshire

[shrinkermd]

Environmentalism has buttressed socialism as the leading secular religion. Scientists, economists, Buddhist monks and Christian activists now believe that ruthless destruction of natural habitats is the ultimate evil.

The views of the environmental religion are now focused on global warming. It is an article of faith that global warming is the greatest threat mankind faces; hence, the desire to eliminate it has become an intense political effort.

Skeptics face a problem. That problem is atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased. The skeptics now have the impossible task of convincing the secular believing public that this is not causing global warming. Among the skeptics, are secular believing environmentalists so all is not lost.

Senator McCain has early on with Senator Lieberman looked for ways to compromise and craft policies on global warming. He continues to meet with scorn, name calling and rudeness rather than studied debate. The chief culprits are those litmus test conservatives who dominate this board.

[cake_crumb]

"You mean, like Social Security?"

HAH. It'll make Social Security look like the most stable financial investment in history. It opens up a huge potential black market because the only people paying through the nose for carbon credits will be "the poor" and when you have a choice between starvation or freezing, you're going to look for a way to not have to MAKE that choice. In a few years, MORE social programs will be put into place to help "the poor" pay for their carbon credits, so even MORE wealth will be redistributed by everyone TO everyone...except for the elite.

[Hardastarboard]

This will create a black market in carbon rationing cards. I’m beginning to think Hitler actually won the war in the long run. He just wasn’t around to see it.

[palmer]

versus the city dweller who has no fuel oil 'footprint' as it's incorporated in the rent

Almost without exception, rentals with free fuel have some windows open in the dead of winter (the fresh air is good for you, you know?)

[napscoordinator]

And we do want to be fair about rationing. How about ration tickets with no ability to buy more.

I would almost want it to happen if it could work this way. I would die laughing seeing those Actors and other rich folks trying to make it on the same carbon budget as others.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

The ecoleftists are definitely winning.

[napscoordinator]

Actually overhere in Italy, we are limited to 300 liters of gas a month. It is way more than enough to use so it is not a big deal. I believe that is one of the things they may pass is giving everyone a certain amount of gas to use during the month. It works well for the military. Will the general public go for it??? I don’t know.

[bray]

Global Scamming has turned algore into a gazillionaire. Coincidence??

Pray for W and Our Troops

[stylin19a]

The Government says it supports the scheme in principle, but warns it is 'ahead of its time'

must have either been too young or didn't listen to their folks stories or missed history class when it came to gas rationing in WWII.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Complete, total BS.

[Jess Kitting]

Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs

MP = Military Police? What is the world coming to?

[cake_crumb]

So what do you do with the leftovers from your gas ration?

[napscoordinator]

So what do you do with the leftovers from your gas ration?

I just don’t buy them. I only use what I need. Everyone else does the same. I am sure that some sell theirs to others, but cannot confirm that...

[Publius Valerius]

MP = Military Police?

MP = Member of Parliament.

[Cincinatus]

MPs, led by Tory Tim Yeo, say the scheme could be more effective at cutting greenhouse gas emissions than green taxes.

Good Grief! This nonsense is coming from an alleged conservative!!

[TADSLOS]

Good Grief! This nonsense is coming from an alleged conservative!!

He's just taking McCain's and the GOP's lead and running with it. It's the new global conservatism of a change we can believe in...

[rightwingcrazy]

“Senator McCain has early on with Senator Lieberman looked for ways to compromise and craft policies on global warming.”

Are you suggesting that he’s just pretending to buy into the Global Warming hype?

[shrinkermd]

No, I didn't say that. Politicians generally avoid clear cut battles with substantial opposition. Instead, if they can, they co-opt the issue in modified form more amenable to their basic philosophy.

[rightwingcrazy]

I’d be comforted if I knew that a dogmatic belief in Global Warming theory weren’t part of his “basic philosophy”, regardless of his more conservative proposals for its amelioration.

[shrinkermd]

Oh, now I understand. If we don't catch them in Wisconsin then they don't count or is it, if we catch them near the border they don't count?

We do agree that 1.3 million illegals are being apprehended and returned. Harder to do is the 40%, in many areas, that have overstayed their visas or other legal means of entry. Not even a 100 foot fence on the Mexican border can remedy that.