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Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs
Daily Mail UK ^ | 27th May 2008 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 05/27/2008 4:14:56 AM PDT by rawhide

Every adult should be forced to use a 'carbon ration card' when they pay for petrol, airline tickets or household energy, MPs say.

The influential Environmental Audit Committee says a personal carbon trading scheme is the best and fairest way of cutting Britain's CO2 emissions without penalising the poor.

Under the scheme, everyone would be given an annual carbon allowance to use when buying oil, gas, electricity and flights.

Anyone who exceeds their entitlement would have to buy top-up credits from individuals who haven't used up their allowance. The amount paid would be driven by market forces and the deal done through a specialist company.

MPs, led by Tory Tim Yeo, say the scheme could be more effective at cutting greenhouse gas emissions than green taxes.

But critics say the idea is costly, bureaucratic, intrusive and unworkable.

The Government says it supports the scheme in principle, but warns it is 'ahead of its time'.

The idea of personal carbon trading is increasingly being promoted by environmentalists. In theory it could be used to cover all purchases - from petrol to food.

For the scheme to work, the Government would need to give out 45million carbon cards - each one linked to a personal carbon account. Every year, the account would be credited with a notional amount of CO2 in kilograms.

Every time someone makes a purchase of petrol, energy or airline tickets, they would use up credits. A return flight from London to Rome would, for instance, use up 900kg of CO2 credits, while 10 litres of petrol would use up 23kg.

Mr Yeo, chairman of the committee said personal carbon trading rewarded those with a low carbon footprint with cash.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: carbon; co2; credit; energy; globalwarming; ration; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: rawhide
Environmentalism has buttressed socialism as the leading secular religion. Scientists, economists, Buddhist monks and Christian activists now believe that ruthless destruction of natural habitats is the ultimate evil.

The views of the environmental religion are now focused on global warming. It is an article of faith that global warming is the greatest threat mankind faces; hence, the desire to eliminate it has become an intense political effort.

Skeptics face a problem. That problem is atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased. The skeptics now have the impossible task of convincing the secular believing public that this is not causing global warming. Among the skeptics, are secular believing environmentalists so all is not lost.

Senator McCain has early on with Senator Lieberman looked for ways to compromise and craft policies on global warming. He continues to meet with scorn, name calling and rudeness rather than studied debate. The chief culprits are those litmus test conservatives who dominate this board.

41 posted on 05/27/2008 5:39:15 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: The Antiyuppie
"You mean, like Social Security?"

HAH. It'll make Social Security look like the most stable financial investment in history. It opens up a huge potential black market because the only people paying through the nose for carbon credits will be "the poor" and when you have a choice between starvation or freezing, you're going to look for a way to not have to MAKE that choice. In a few years, MORE social programs will be put into place to help "the poor" pay for their carbon credits, so even MORE wealth will be redistributed by everyone TO everyone...except for the elite.

42 posted on 05/27/2008 5:40:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: Right Wing Assault

This will create a black market in carbon rationing cards. I’m beginning to think Hitler actually won the war in the long run. He just wasn’t around to see it.


43 posted on 05/27/2008 5:43:44 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: maine-iac7
versus the city dweller who has no fuel oil 'footprint' as it's incorporated in the rent

Almost without exception, rentals with free fuel have some windows open in the dead of winter (the fresh air is good for you, you know?)

44 posted on 05/27/2008 5:44:58 AM PDT by palmer
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To: OpusatFR

And we do want to be fair about rationing. How about ration tickets with no ability to buy more.

I would almost want it to happen if it could work this way. I would die laughing seeing those Actors and other rich folks trying to make it on the same carbon budget as others.


45 posted on 05/27/2008 5:52:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rawhide

The ecoleftists are definitely winning.


46 posted on 05/27/2008 5:57:58 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: samtheman

Actually overhere in Italy, we are limited to 300 liters of gas a month. It is way more than enough to use so it is not a big deal. I believe that is one of the things they may pass is giving everyone a certain amount of gas to use during the month. It works well for the military. Will the general public go for it??? I don’t know.


47 posted on 05/27/2008 6:00:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: rawhide

Global Scamming has turned algore into a gazillionaire. Coincidence??

Pray for W and Our Troops


48 posted on 05/27/2008 6:02:02 AM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: rawhide
The Government says it supports the scheme in principle, but warns it is 'ahead of its time'

must have either been too young or didn't listen to their folks stories or missed history class when it came to gas rationing in WWII.


49 posted on 05/27/2008 6:02:15 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: rawhide

Complete, total BS.


50 posted on 05/27/2008 6:03:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rawhide
Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs

MP = Military Police? What is the world coming to?

51 posted on 05/27/2008 6:03:41 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: napscoordinator

So what do you do with the leftovers from your gas ration?


52 posted on 05/27/2008 6:04:11 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: cake_crumb

So what do you do with the leftovers from your gas ration?

I just don’t buy them. I only use what I need. Everyone else does the same. I am sure that some sell theirs to others, but cannot confirm that...


53 posted on 05/27/2008 6:16:04 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Jess Kitting
MP = Military Police?

MP = Member of Parliament.

54 posted on 05/27/2008 6:20:01 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: rawhide
MPs, led by Tory Tim Yeo, say the scheme could be more effective at cutting greenhouse gas emissions than green taxes.

Good Grief! This nonsense is coming from an alleged conservative!!

55 posted on 05/27/2008 6:20:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus
Good Grief! This nonsense is coming from an alleged conservative!!

He's just taking McCain's and the GOP's lead and running with it. It's the new global conservatism of a change we can believe in...

56 posted on 05/27/2008 6:27:08 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: shrinkermd

“Senator McCain has early on with Senator Lieberman looked for ways to compromise and craft policies on global warming.”

Are you suggesting that he’s just pretending to buy into the Global Warming hype?


57 posted on 05/27/2008 6:31:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy
No, I didn't say that. Politicians generally avoid clear cut battles with substantial opposition. Instead, if they can, they co-opt the issue in modified form more amenable to their basic philosophy.
58 posted on 05/27/2008 6:35:50 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

I’d be comforted if I knew that a dogmatic belief in Global Warming theory weren’t part of his “basic philosophy”, regardless of his more conservative proposals for its amelioration.


59 posted on 05/27/2008 6:47:43 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: shrinkermd
Oh, now I understand. If we don't catch them in Wisconsin then they don't count or is it, if we catch them near the border they don't count?

We do agree that 1.3 million illegals are being apprehended and returned. Harder to do is the 40%, in many areas, that have overstayed their visas or other legal means of entry. Not even a 100 foot fence on the Mexican border can remedy that.

60 posted on 05/27/2008 6:48:09 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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