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Every adult in Britain should be forced to carry 'carbon ration cards', say MPs
Daily Mail UK ^ | 27th May 2008 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 05/27/2008 4:14:56 AM PDT by rawhide

Every adult should be forced to use a 'carbon ration card' when they pay for petrol, airline tickets or household energy, MPs say.

The influential Environmental Audit Committee says a personal carbon trading scheme is the best and fairest way of cutting Britain's CO2 emissions without penalising the poor.

Under the scheme, everyone would be given an annual carbon allowance to use when buying oil, gas, electricity and flights.

Anyone who exceeds their entitlement would have to buy top-up credits from individuals who haven't used up their allowance. The amount paid would be driven by market forces and the deal done through a specialist company.

MPs, led by Tory Tim Yeo, say the scheme could be more effective at cutting greenhouse gas emissions than green taxes.

But critics say the idea is costly, bureaucratic, intrusive and unworkable.

The Government says it supports the scheme in principle, but warns it is 'ahead of its time'.

The idea of personal carbon trading is increasingly being promoted by environmentalists. In theory it could be used to cover all purchases - from petrol to food.

For the scheme to work, the Government would need to give out 45million carbon cards - each one linked to a personal carbon account. Every year, the account would be credited with a notional amount of CO2 in kilograms.

Every time someone makes a purchase of petrol, energy or airline tickets, they would use up credits. A return flight from London to Rome would, for instance, use up 900kg of CO2 credits, while 10 litres of petrol would use up 23kg.

Mr Yeo, chairman of the committee said personal carbon trading rewarded those with a low carbon footprint with cash.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: carbon; co2; credit; energy; globalwarming; ration; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: rawhide

Every adult in Britain should be deep frozen until we can find a cure for their suicidal political correctitude.


21 posted on 05/27/2008 4:56:18 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Uh...fight SCD. Schwa Collapse Disorder is spreading. Save the a word. Just say uh.)
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To: rawhide

The religion of AlGore is in full stride in GB...


22 posted on 05/27/2008 5:00:38 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Post of the Day!


23 posted on 05/27/2008 5:01:09 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: rawhide

So do we get to string these politicians up when the fraud of man made global warming has finally run its course?

Their hysteria has real consequences on real people. They have to be held accountable for all the harm they’ve caused.


24 posted on 05/27/2008 5:01:31 AM PDT by DB
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To: rawhide

Coming soon to the formerly “Great” Britain: Carbon Rationing cards, based on body weight, so you can be taxed for the amount of CO2 you exhale on a daily basis.

Mark


25 posted on 05/27/2008 5:01:46 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: OpusatFR
It simply allows the richest to buy whatever they want at whatever price while sharing the pain unequally.

Retraining camp for you!

All are equal but some are more equal than others.


26 posted on 05/27/2008 5:02:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rawhide

THANK YOU, Parliament, for confirming the wisdom of my ancestors in the early 1600’s.


27 posted on 05/27/2008 5:04:04 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Just because you're running for President doesn't mean that you are the center of the universe")
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To: rawhide

Visions of thousands of old people freezing to death in their homes...


28 posted on 05/27/2008 5:06:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: rawhide
This gets at the very heart of the global warming movement, just a disguise of communism and distribution of wealth.
29 posted on 05/27/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: TheBattman
The religion of AlGore is in full stride in GB...

I demand a congressional inquiry into AlGore's financial dealings in these "carbon credit" boondoggle schemes. I want to know just how much he's made so far, and how much he stands to make by pushing this crap, while destroying the economy of the USA.

Mark

30 posted on 05/27/2008 5:06:52 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Sacajaweau
Penalty: MONEY TO THE GOV...

"personal carbon trading rewarded those with a low carbon footprint with cash."

Or money from the poorer to the rich...money from the rural to the city dweller...money from the conservative red states to the liberal blue cities...

Think about it. For example, I live in Maine, a very rural state wherever you are...very little public transportation. People drive, of necessity, some distance to get to work - to get anywhere.

so we would be punished when we go over our "allotment" and would have to pay a penalty to the city dweller who often doesn't even own a car.

This octopus idea has tentacles that would reach into out pockets and 'redistribute' the 'wealth' while, at the same time, restrict the movement of red staters - and we know who we are.

And what about the red stater who is more likely to own their own home - i.e., pay for their own fuel to heat their house, versus the city dweller who has no fuel oil 'footprint' as it's incorporated in the rent, impossible to separate to individual use in apartment complexes. They'll get a nice little pay-out from the red stater on that front too - and be able to keep their thermostat at 72.

72 in the daytime and 65 at night used to be the 'norm' - back in the '60's.

These people haven't a clue. We working folk have long ago cut back to more like 68-70 in the daytime and 60 at night- and throw on a heavy sweater.

But I gotta tell ya, little children, who 'live' in the first 2-3 feet off the floor, where it's the coldest, and old foggies like me, can't take it much colder.

I burned wood for more than half of the winter this year - not an easy task for an old great granny - and my fuel bill was still outrageous. But I don't know how else to keep from freezing. When I bought my house 17 years ago, it cost $500 to heat - before I had a wood stove. To heat this year, if I had no wood stove, would have been almost $2,000. If it continues as predicted, it would be $2,500. And I'm not sure I can manage hauling in wood another winter. I am far from alone.

I can't afford $2,000, let alone $2,500 = and I sure as hell can't afford to pay a penalty above that...

Put either dimRAt in the WH and keep letting dimRats go to Senate/Congress and practice living under Communism. That's what they have ready to turn this country over too...and any of you that are, with nose held high in a misguided ego trip, saying you won't vote for McCain - you are helping to shove us straight into a Marxist government.

McCain wasn't my first or second choice. But the people have voted. He is our candidate. Much of the strikes people hold against him are due to the fact that he has served many years, giving him a long track record. NO ONE can serve that long and maintain a "100% MY WAY OR ELSE" record.

But remember this: He is for a strict Constitutional Republic = as laid out by our Founders. This is a Republic, not a democracy, something few today realize.

Like Fred Thompson, he believes in States Rights in every matter that States can decide for themselves, leaving much less rule from DC.

He will support the military - you want to see this war end? We put McCain in the WH - and stop letting the traitors party hold the reigns in the halls of Congress, and the terrorists will realize we're not going to cut and run. They will see 4-8 plus more years of republican rule stretching out before them and realize they WILL be defeated. They will find much less support from their base, and that includes Washington.

These are the top critical considerations in this election. Everything else falls in behind.

31 posted on 05/27/2008 5:06:58 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: NavVet
"All the limousine liberals would have to create their own fake “carbon offset” businesses to “buy credits” from. Sort of like AlGore does now."

A legal pyramid scam.

32 posted on 05/27/2008 5:07:26 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: maine-iac7

I hold his Gore-lite stance on the environment against him, but yes, we’re stuck with him, he’ll stay the course in the war on terror, and I’d like to be alive TO b*tch about the cost of the global warming scam.


33 posted on 05/27/2008 5:11:24 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: rawhide
The influential Environmental Audit Committee says a personal carbon trading scheme is the best and fairest way of cutting Britain's CO2 emissions without penalising the poor. Under the scheme, everyone would be given an annual carbon allowance to use when buying oil, gas, electricity and flights. Anyone who exceeds their entitlement would have to buy top-up credits from individuals who haven't used up their allowance. The amount paid would be driven by market forces and the deal done through a specialist company.

Great Britain is doomed. They are basing government policy on a false premise. Clearly the government has no adult supervision and zero common sense. However, "adult supervision" is in the wings and scattered throughout the country, has a total grip on their economic system, and soon enough will be applying their Sharia Law to bring order to the once great country. It is sad to see.

34 posted on 05/27/2008 5:11:50 AM PDT by olezip
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To: rawhide

Madonna would be forced to pay every poor person in England for carbon credits just to make a concert tour.
Right? Right? (crickets chirping)


35 posted on 05/27/2008 5:20:29 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: cake_crumb
Visions of thousands of old people freezing to death in their homes...

True, but they will have their carbon credits in their carbon credit lock box very secure at the algore institute of carbon credit administration.

36 posted on 05/27/2008 5:23:18 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: rawhide
This really shows the true agenda of the “global warming” freaks.

It is a made up problem.
The real agenda is simply to let the government control individual's lives.

37 posted on 05/27/2008 5:27:52 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: cake_crumb

“All the limousine liberals would have to create their own fake “carbon offset” businesses to “buy credits” from. Sort of like AlGore does now.”

A legal pyramid scam.

You mean, like Social Security?


38 posted on 05/27/2008 5:31:56 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: USS Alaska
"True, but they will have their carbon credits in their carbon credit lock box very secure at the algore institute of carbon credit administration."

Right, they'll be nice and safe there, so younger, more productive people can repurchase them.

39 posted on 05/27/2008 5:35:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama = Bumbling Tyrant who loves America's enemies)
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To: rawhide

This is in our future.

Why?

Because Republicans are too stupid to run on increasing American oil supplies for Americans.

Republicans are too stupid.


40 posted on 05/27/2008 5:37:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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