Posted on 05/26/2008 12:14:16 AM PDT by calcowgirl
I did not see much "joking" in this exchange. The defensive argument by Hillary that Kennedy was assassinated in June before the Democratic Primary represents specious reasoning, however. It is true that he was assassinated. But that has nothing to do with the availability of Hillary for the spot. Whether she drops out or not she would be available for the nomination.
Therefore her argument that she has to stay in makes no sense to those with ordered minds. But those with disordered minds...
...wishful thinking, perhaps?
But put two and two together and one has to think there was a backroom discussion of a "what if"...scenario. Hillary simply let the cat out of the bag.
Hillary’s words are sufficient enough to say: “I don’t want her for my VP.”
Lest we forget,
in the game of Clue,
Michell O said Obama at a gas station.
What amazes me is how Democrats remember this as such a major event in America. There are days I remember, such as the day JFK was assassinated, but Bobby Kennedy does not seem to rise to that level.
It is interesting to note, with few exceptions, the shooters have all been hard line leftists. In the Bobby Kennedy instance, the shooter was a Muslim, if I remember right, but no comment by the Democrats on that aspect of it.
I heard this exchange and at the time I thought Trotta was using the play on words. Obama can’t “knock off” Hillary and claim the win, and knocking off Osama as in killing him.
Maybe I’m just not sensitive enough, huh.
Hillary’s comments of “we all remember” directed towards Bobby Kennedy struck me as funny. I’m not among the “we all remember” crowd on this one. Yes, I know it happened and I watched it on TV like everyone else, but the date does not stick in my mind as it must for Democrats.
It’s gettin’ it to look like a suicide, that’s the trick.
The Clinton’s are to staging murder as suicide what Red Adair is to putting out oil well fires.
Gifted.
Something or someone is messing with the comments on the youtube site. I read a couple comments that then “disappeared”. One comment was obviously from a flight attendent who lived in Europe, comparing Euros to dollars (actual numbers), and then explaining how he/she and all their friends still don’t want to come to the US as they were surprised at out how “backwards” Americans were. (Something to that effect).
Hmmm.
When one thinks of it, both Obama and Clinton have said some of the stupidist things during the primary season.
God forbid Obama gets shot at. These jokes will not sound nearly so funny."And now we have what some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama, uh Obama. Well, both, if we could." She laughed.
I don't want the man to be President. But neither do I want him getting shot at, even "in fun".
But that's the thing - it wasn't fun, it was embarrassment over the "Osama, uh Obama" gaffe that Trotta made.It wasn't premeditated, or anything close to it.
Of course, everyone is P.C. to the max when discussing a woman vs. black election . . .
BYW- Rush said Roger Ailes told him that FOX had found a way to clone all the beautiful blondes on FOX at Bikini Atoll after the nuclear testing was finished there. I'm glad someone could now put this island to good use!
Oooooops BYW = BTW. Not enough coffee yet this a.m.!
... “Death of a President” was honored by The International Critics Prize Jury at Toronto for “the audacity with which it distorts reality, to reveal a larger truth.”
Make no mistake, it was the left-wing entertainment community that recently promoted presidential assassinations. That included the off-Broadway musical Assassins, a "cynical comedy" that opens with a proprietor encouraging passerbys to "come on and kill a president." Hillary reintroduced the subject, not the Fox contributor.
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SIX YEARS into the Bush administration, are there any new lows to which the Bush-haters can sink?
George W. Bush has been smeared by the left with every insult imaginable. He has been called a segregationist who yearns to revive Jim Crow and compared ad nauseam to Adolf Hitler. His detractors have accused him of being financially entwined with Osama bin Laden. Of presiding over an American gulag. Of being a latter-day Mussolini. Howard Dean has proffered the ``interesting theory” that the Saudis tipped off Bush in advance about 9/11. One US senator (Ted Kennedy) has called the war in Iraq a ``fraud” that Bush ``cooked up in Texas” for political gain; another ( Vermont independent James Jeffords) has charged him with planning a war in Iran as a strategy to put his brother in the White House. Cindy Sheehan has called him a ``lying bastard,” a ``filth spewer,” an ``evil maniac,” a ``fuehrer,” and a ``terrorist” guilty of ``blatant genocide” — and been rewarded for her invective with oceans of media attention.
What else can they say about Bush? That they want him killed?
They already say it.
On Air America, talk show host Randi Rhodes recommended doing to Bush what Michael Corleone, in ``The Godfather, Part II,” does to his brother. ``Like Fredo,” she said, ``somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw!” — then imitated the sound of a gunshot. In the Guardian, a leading British daily, columnist Charlie Brooker issued a plea: ``John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?”
For the more literary Bush-hater, there is ``Checkpoint,” a novel by Nicholson Baker in which two characters discuss the wisdom of shooting the president. ``I'm going to kill that bastard,” one character fumes. Some Bush-hatred masquerades as art: At Chicago's Columbia College, a curated exhibit included a sheet of mock postage stamps bearing the words ``Patriot Act” and depicting President Bush with a gun to his head. There are even Bush-assassination fashion statements, such as the ``KILL BUSH” T-shirts that were on offer last year at CafePress, an online retailer.
Lurid political libels have a long history in American life. The lies told about John Adams in the campaign of 1800 were vile enough, his wife Abigail lamented, ``to ruin and corrupt the minds and morals of the best people in the world.” But has there ever been a president so hated by his enemies that they lusted openly for his death? Or tried to gratify that lust with such political pornography?
As with other kinds of porn, even the most graphic expressions of Bush-hatred tend to jade those who gorge on it, so that they crave ever more explicit material to achieve the same effect.
Which brings us to ``Death of a President,” a new movie about the assassination of George W. Bush.
Written and directed by British filmmaker Gabriel Range, the movie premieres today at the Toronto Film Festival and will air next month on Britain's Channel 4. Shot in the style of a documentary, the movie opens with what looks like actual footage of Bush being gunned down by a sniper as he leaves a Chicago hotel in October 2007. Through the use of digital special effects, the film superimposes the president's face onto the body of the actor playing him, so that the mortally wounded man collapsing on the screen will seem, all too vividly, to be Bush himself.
This is Bush-hatred as a snuff film. The fantasies it feeds are grotesque and obscene; to pander to such fantasies is to rip at boundary-markers that are indispensable to civilized society. That such a movie could not only be made but lionized at an international film festival is a mark not of sophistication, but of a sickness in modern life that should alarm conservatives and liberals alike.
Naturally that's not how the film's promoters see it. Noah Cowan, one of the Toronto festival's codirectors, high-mindedly describes ``Death of a President” as ``a classic cautionary tale.” Well, yes, Bush's assassination is ``harrowing,” he says, but what the film is really about is ``how the Patriot Act, especially, and how Bush's divisive partisanship and race-baiting has forever altered America.”
I can't help wondering, though, whether some of those who see this film will take away rather a different message. John Hinckley, in his derangement, had the idea that shooting the president was the way to impress a movie star. After seeing ``Death of a President,” the next Hinckley may get a more grandiose idea: Shooting the president is the way to become a movie star.
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Nobody batted an eyelash when in February 2008, Nobel Peace Prize winner Doris Lessing said: [Obama]...”would certainly not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would murder him.”
I LOVE Liz Trotta!!! She’s great :)
Liz Trotta was the first woman journo in Vietnam. She is brilliant and was or still is an editor at the Washington Times. She is formidable and can take care of herself.
I find it difficult to believe she spoke unwittingly. She has withstood real combat and frequently speaks out bluntly on politics. However, since so few people seem to recall Liz Trotta’s past or be aware of her present, I believe the main focus of ire will remain on Hillary.
For those making jokes about her looks (not you, enchante), I really hope you all have to be judged accordingly after age 60. It becomes really beyond tiresome to have to scroll through countless posts on every female’s hotness index in order to read a thread on FR.
I would like to suggest that every male making these comments have the guts to post a photo of themselves when making these gratuitous remarks. Yes, I know they are joking comments on some idiot judges refusing to send 20-something teachers to jail for sex with students. The comments are still tiresome.
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