Posted on 05/24/2008 9:04:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The folks at Scientific American are steamed at Ben Stein: (see links):
Ben Stein's Expelled: No Integrity Displayed (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=ben-steins-expelled-review-john-rennie)
Six Things in Expelled That Ben Stein Doesn't Want You to Know...(http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=six-things-ben-stein-doesnt-want-you-to-know)
Stein's controversial movie Expelled links Charles Darwin to Adolf Hitler, the ultimate scientific hero to the ultimate manifestation of human evil. "A shameful antievolution film tries to blame Darwin for the Holocaust," shouts John Rennie's headline. Rennie then declares that its "heavy-handed linkage of modern biology to the Holocaust demands a response for the sake of simple human decency."
The problem is, that the link is quite real. In fact, undeniable. One doesn't need to see the film to make that link. Simply read Charles Darwin's The Descent of Man and Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf.
Darwin's Descent of Man applies the evolutionary arguments of his more famous Origin of Species to human beings. In it, Darwin argues that those characteristics we might think to be specifically humanphysical strength and health, morality, and intelligencewere actually achieved by natural selection. From this, he infers two related eugenic conclusions.
First, if the desirable results of strength, health, morality, and intelligence are caused by natural selection, then we can improve them by artificial selection. We can breed better human beings, even rise above the human to the superhuman. Since human beings have been raised above the other animals by the struggle to survive, they may be raised even higher, transcending human nature to somethingwho knows?as much above men as men are now above the apes. This strange hope rests in Darwin's very rejection of the belief that man is defined by God, for "the fact of his having thus risen" by evolution to where he is, "instead of having been aboriginally placed there" by God, "may give him hopes for a still higher destiny in the distant future."
Second, if good breeding gives us better results, pushing us up the evolutionary slope, then bad or indiscriminate breeding drags us back down. "If various checks do not prevent the reckless, the vicious and otherwise inferior members of society from increasing at a quicker rate than the better class of men," Darwin groaned, "the nation will retrograde, as has occurred too often in the history of the world. We must remember that progress is no invariable rule."
Now to Hitler. The first, most important thing to understand is that the link between Darwin and Hitler was not immediate. That is, nobody is making the case that Hitler had Darwin's eugenic masterpiece The Descent of Man in one hand while he penned Mein Kampf in the other. Darwin's eugenic ideas were spread all over Europe and America, until they were common intellectual coin by Hitler's time. That makes the linkage all the stronger, because we are not talking about one crazed man misreading Darwin but at least two generations of leading scientists and intellectuals drawing the same eugenic conclusions from evolutionary theory as Darwin himself drew.
A second point. We misunderstand Hitler's evil if we reduce it to anti-Semitism. Hitler's anti-Semitism had, of course, multiple causes, including his own warped character. That having been said, Nazism was at heart a racial, that is, a biological political program based up evolutionary theory. It was "applied biology," in the words of deputy party leader of the Nazis, Rudolph Hess, and done for the sake of a perceived greater good, racial purity, that is, for the sake of a race purified of physical and mental defects, imperfections, and racial inferiority.
The greater good. We need to remember that, even though we rightly consider it the apogee of wickedness, the Nazi regime did not purport to do evil. In a monstrous illustration of the adage about good intentions leading to hell, it claimed to be scientific and progressive, to do what hard reason demanded for the ultimate benefit of the human race. Its superhuman acts of inhumanity were carried out for the sake of humanity.
Hitler had enormous sympathy for the downtrodden he witnessed as a young man in Vienna. "The Vienna manual labourers lived in surroundings of appalling misery. I shudder even to-day when I think of the woeful dens in which people dwelt, the night shelters and the slums, and all the tenebrous spectacles of ordure, loathsome filth and wickedness."
He believed that the social problems he witnessed in Vienna needed a radical, even ruthless solution if true change were to be effected. As he says with breathtaking concision, "the sentimental attitude would be the wrong one to adopt."
"Even in those days I already saw that there was a two-fold method by which alone it would be possible to bring about an amelioration of these conditions. This method is: first, to create better fundamental conditions of social development by establishing a profound feeling for social responsibilities among the public; second, to combine this feeling for social responsibilities with a ruthless determination to prune away all excrescences which are incapable of being improved."
The proposed ruthlessness of his solution was in direct imitation of nature conceived according to Darwinism. "Just as Nature concentrates its greatest attention, not to the maintenance of what already exists but on the selective breeding of offspring in order to carry on the species, so in human life also it is less a matter of artificially improving the existing generationwhich, owing to human characteristics, is impossible in ninety-nine cases out of a hundredand more a matter of securing from the very start a better road for future development."
How do we secure a better road for future development? By ensuring that only the best of the best race, the Aryan race, breed, and pruning away all the unfit and racially inferior. That isn't just a theory; it's eugenic Darwinism as a political program. As Hitler made clear, "the State is looked upon only as a means to an end and this end is the conservation of the racial characteristics of mankind." Jews have to be pruned away, but also Gypsies, Slavs, the retarded, handicapped, and any one else that is biologically unfit.
That's Darwinism in action. Does that mean that Darwin would have approved? No. Does that mean that Darwin's theory provided the framework for Hitler's eugenic program? Yes.
What a crock of mealy-mouthed sophistry. Might as well sit around a campfire singing kum-ba-ya and talking about our "feelings".
Dramatic effect. The Nazis are bete noire to most liberals, so they loathe the comparison.
OK. But don't drag a pantload of emotional manipulation in here and tell me it's "science".
Do you think it was reasonable, rational, or logical for Nobel to blame himself for the deaths that resulted from the use of dynamite as a weapon?
Are you able to look at anything historically? The simple fact is that it took a long while for the Darwinian synthesis to be worked out. That is the reconciliation between what was true in Darwin’s theory and what was true in Mendel’s theory. Cobbled together loosely by Julian Huxley by about 1940. The molecular biology which make the thing plausible came after 1950. But the case is really just now being made by the detailed sequencing. But it is not all tied up neat and tidy, and we know that very often that as a theory seems to have been verified, new evidence, new tools etc. scrambles things again, and a new pattern has to be found. Talk about emotional: the reaction to the ID people verges on hysterical. If what they say is so ridiculous, then why all the fuss? One takes a machete to a rattlesnake, and lets the grass snake just slither away.
This is the key to the issue. Darwinism including social Darwinism and its eugenic technology was generally considered an acceptable school of thought up until the Third Reich revealed its ugly face.
To deny this is to ignore history, something the once respectable Scientific American has become rather good at.
If there's evidence for ID and the tools to find it, bring 'em on. The "ID people" are the ones making it emotional, because that's all they've got.
Kind of hard to “bring it on,” if you can’t get a job and can’t get published. But is it only them when their opponents brand them as “creationists,” as if the term meant they rejected the concept of evolution.
You don't need a job or to be published to have an idea. Show me one concrete proposal for research that would provide empirical evidence of ID. You can't justify a job as a researcher pursuing a hypothesis that can't be tested. As far as being branded "creationists", they pretty much did that themselves by their association with organizations like the Discovery Institute.
Are they creationists, or not?
His actions may have been the result of wrong understanding of the natural selection process but the final Darwinian outcome of the survival of the fittest as it turned out had had Hitler and his Nazi cohorts thoroughly wiped and most of Germany razed.
“Or the evidence mustered by evolutionists to support their claim is generally very poor anyway.”
.....And what evidence have the creationist ever provided other a book called “The Bible”?
Does these "volumes" include Of Pandas and People?
Creationism is a synthesis of Greek and Hebrew thought, each being a radical critique of the mythologies of western ages, and blended together in the last centuries before Christ and the first centuries after Christ.
It sounds like creationism and ID aren’t mutually exclusive. What’s the problem with ID proponents being “branded as creationists” if, in fact, they are?
Darwin's was simply wrong, that's how.
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