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America in Ashes?--On the trail of al-Qaeda's nuclear jihad.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 23, 2008 | Christopher S. Carson

Posted on 05/23/2008 5:36:29 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SMARTY

Your fantasy should be more like the August 2001 meeting of US Ambassador April Glaspie with Saddam Hussein-
I believe Saddam launched his invasion of Kuwait 3 days later, just after April Glaspie had left Iraq for a vacation to celebrate the success of her unconditional direct talks


41 posted on 05/24/2008 7:11:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Riyahd?

Never happen. Thousands of Americans and othe foreign nationals live and work there. Disingenuous Saudi Royals will have plenty of plausible deniability. Not to mention the world economy would instantly tank due to the contamination of the Gulf oil fields.

Of course, this is likely to happen anyway in the aftermath of panic following any nuc attack on any American city. Panic that could includee kneejerk secondary attacks or invasions by North Korea against South Korea and missile attacks on Japan.


42 posted on 05/24/2008 7:16:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

I forgot to mention possible secondary war in India vs Pakistan which is also on hair trigger, would go to hight laret and possible miscalculation war- balance could tip in matter of hours, expecially in dearth of US diplomacy to ease situation.


43 posted on 05/24/2008 7:17:58 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SJackson

“It turns out that the Pilot himself need not have been panicked. Several days after the press conference naming Shukrijumah, a certain Samuel Mac, the manager of a Denny’s restaurant in Avon, Colorado, became uneasy as he served two “demanding, rude and obnoxious” patrons at his restaurant. One of them looked, for all the world, like the guy he remembered was in the Ashcroft-Mueller press conference’s first poster: Adnan the Pilot. The other one, wolfing down a health-conscious chicken sandwich and a salad, looked like the guy the FBI said was Abderraouf Jdey, the head of al-Qaeda’s cell in Toronto. They said they were traveling cross-country.

From behind his counter, Mr. Mac looked at these patrons again. He figured at least Washington, D.C., would have an FBI office, so he called there. The agent who answered the phone was uninterested and referred him to the Denver office. Calling this number, Mr. Mac was left with an endless loop of voice mail. The purported al-Qaeda officials eventually strolled out of the restaurant and took off. Five hours later an agent from the Denver field office called back, took a few perfunctory notes, and said he’d pass the info along. Mr. Mac thoughtfully preserved the plates and utensils the men had eaten with, but no one ever bothered to come over and collect them for DNA evidence, or interviewed any of the restaurant’s employees. So much for the national “Be on the Lookout” alert. “

This is unbelievable! They should have sent agents or the police within minutes to question these possible terrorists.


44 posted on 05/24/2008 7:19:03 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: SJackson


45 posted on 05/24/2008 7:22:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Squantos

“I would suggest that a terrorist that has evaded capture this long will not draw such attention too themselves in a cafe etc .........”

Evidence shows that your suggestion is not correct.

Actor James Wood noticed several of the 9-11 terrorists doing a dry run on the same plance he was on, one of the things he noted that they were very rude to the female flight attendant. He was so concerned that he told the pilot that this may be a hijack attempt, the pilot believed him, but authorities did not, and when they landed safely, they didn’t even question the suspected terrorists. After 9-11 James Wood got in touch with the FBI and they confirmed that the potential hijackers he saw months prior were indeed the 9-11 terrorists.

Here is the link to O’Reilly’s interview with James Wood — there were other articles, but those links seem to be broken now, but this one still works.

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/FOX%20NEWS_transcript%20-%20Actor%20James%20Woods.htm


46 posted on 05/24/2008 7:33:29 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: SJackson
Former Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Graham Allison are among those who have estimated that chance at more than 50 percent over the next decade. That is, two respected experts in the field believe that the nuclear destruction of one or more American urban centers is more probable than not in the very near future.

Nah. What we should really worry about is our evil practice of waterboarding.

/s

47 posted on 05/24/2008 7:36:49 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: milford421; nw_arizona_granny

“NW_Arizona_Granny has posted 3 very relevant articles that would seem to be connecting: the lastest worry article from DHS regarding small aircraft, the nuclear incident in Sweden and the filter removal at nuke plant in Idaho.”

Could you post the links here, please? I am not familiar with those articles. Sound interesting and relevant. Thanks.


48 posted on 05/24/2008 7:40:10 AM PDT by Clairity
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To: Diogenesis
Concerning the military patches:
Do you know when they were found? Does any FReeper here know if these are of a current islamic nation?
The first appears to be Iranian, and the second has English on it (Turkish). If I'm correct, they may be several decades old.

The Defense Language Institute (DLI) at Lackland AFB in San Antonio had many Iranian and other mideastern ally pilots learning English there during the late 70s. They were free to sightsee around the countryside during the weekends like any other allied personnel. When the Shah was overthrown, the Iranian students applied for asylum here.
Summary: these may be (probably are) some of their patches; after all, it would be crazy for enemy infiltrators to be wearing a uniform identifying which country they were from!

49 posted on 05/24/2008 8:48:53 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Clairity

Agree NOW yet THEN they were not being sought. Thus my comment that they (the two in this thread) are evading capture !

There is a difference when your part of the crowd or the crowd is after YOU.

Stay safe and thanks for the links !


50 posted on 05/24/2008 9:03:06 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: All

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Check out this awesome video:

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The same kind of terrorists who support Obama did this:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/
Never apologize for them.
Never appease them.
Never forget.


51 posted on 05/24/2008 9:05:28 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: SJackson; NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

Thanks,....very disturbing ping!


52 posted on 05/24/2008 11:48:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Terabitten

>>>Stock up on guns and ammo.

I’m currently working on a book that has at its root this exact scenario. A nuclear device (or devices, haven’t decided yet) is set off inside the US, and our liberal president refuses to react. Civil war within the US begins within days.<<<

Sadly, I agree with you. Some Americans will still be blaming Bush as the shockwave rushes towards them; some Americans will be ready to take up arms and fight Islam wherever they find it. God help us if we have a president who comes on TV after the attack and says he’s going to negotiate instead of fighting.

Here’s an option, though, which might stop the Islamofascists in their tracks.

Explode an atmospheric nuclear bomb right above Mecca. Inform the world of Islam that one more attack means that the next explosion is Mecca itself. Then demand terms of surrender.

When the next attack comes, follow through with the promise. When Allah doesn’t come through protecting his precious little rock behind the big black curtain, Islam will fall apart. In the best of all worlds, most of the Islamic world converts to the Baha’i faith, which shares much of the outward appearance of Islam without the killing, hatred toward women, and forced conversion.

There’s your book, bud. Enjoy!


53 posted on 05/24/2008 12:02:12 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Clairity

No problem Clairity. These links should work.

DHS Wants to Vet Small Aircraft Before They Enter U.S. Airspace
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2008/June/Security.htm# jihadis


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1316692,00.html

Nuclear Plant Shut Over Explosives
Updated:14:40, Wednesday May 21, 2008


http://casperstartribune.net/articles/2008/05/24/news/regional/aab1639da40df2e487257452006298b3.txt
May 24, 2008 - Idaho Radioactive waste containers had their filters removed


54 posted on 05/24/2008 12:32:59 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Hey Fars, Can you answer for post 45 and 49?

Were these patches found near the scene of an crime, incident, accident, etc?

Calling card?


55 posted on 05/24/2008 12:37:08 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: garjog
AQ wants to destroy America. How else do you do that? Blow up three or more of our cities and that should do it. AQ has the money to develop or buy nukes. This really could happen.

What should we do to stop them? Oh, I know. Let’s scan our shoes at airports. That should do it.


We're too busy harassing little old grannies and middle-aged white women at the airport, while the young Muslim men waltz right on through the line due to our politically correct fear of "profiling".

Political correctness will prove to be our fatal flaw.
56 posted on 05/24/2008 12:55:06 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: freema

bookmark


57 posted on 05/24/2008 1:24:48 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: silverleaf
Perhaps you're thinking of the July 25, 1990 meeting. Certainly not 2001.

HF

58 posted on 05/24/2008 7:46:59 PM PDT by holden
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To: SJackson

It’s been too quiet on our soil and I don’t trust the government. Our border is wide open and they have found evidence of Uranium smuggling through Mexico.

The way things are now, a nuke attack is inevitable. A coordinated attack on several cities would bring the US to its knees.

The terrorist strategy dictates a coordinated surprise attack because that border will be sealed shut the day a nuke goes off. Just like locking cockpit doors after 9/11.

I’m trying to stay as far from NYC as possible until that border is sealed.


59 posted on 05/24/2008 8:43:04 PM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: redpoll
An atmospheric nuke over Mecca would work, but in his book, he plans to have a liberal, do-nothing president.

I doubt someone like that (Obama) would have the cojones to target Islam's holiest site.
60 posted on 05/24/2008 9:03:10 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (Thompson Conservative)
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