Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
SAN ANGELO, Texas - A state appellate court has ruled that child welfare officials had no right to seize more than 400 children living at a polygamist sect's ranch.
The Third Court of Appeals in Austin ruled that the grounds for removing the children were "legally and factually insufficient" under Texas law. They did not immediately order the return of the children.
Child welfare officials removed the children on the grounds that the sect pushed underage girls into marriage and sex and trained boys to become future perpetrators.
The appellate court ruled the chaotic hearing held last month did not demonstrate the children were in any immediate danger, the only measure of taking children from their homes without court proceedings.
I quit posting to the FLDS threads. It was hopeless trying to explain the concept of due process and constitutional rights to the self-righteous on those threads. I even made a sarcastic remark about ‘gettin’ muh rope to string ‘em up’ and got kudos for it! They couldn’t see the irony or that they were pursuing a lynch mob mentality.
Never been to the city before, eh?
It goes beyond rude and condescending. For example, just a few posts above, a pro-CPS person told another FR member "why don't you go join NAMBLA?" Similar ad hominem attacks of a truly contemptible nature have been par for the course among the gang who seem to have made it their full-time job to defend the government seizure of 465 children.
They are good people who really do care for the children, who simply don’t see the harm in what the CPS did.
Anyone who doesn't recognize the fundamental necessity for the rule of law and the protection of constitutional rights is a dangerous liberal in my book. Of course all dangerous liberals say "it's for the children." That only makes them more dangerous.
But your attempt to be charitable is appreciated, nonetheless, as an example we could all do to imitate.
US clerics accused of abuse from 1950-2002: 4,392.
Individuals making accusations: 10,667.
Victims' ages: 5.8% under 7; 16% ages 8-10; 50.9% ages 11-14; 27.3% ages 15-17.
Victims' gender: 81% male, 19% female
Duration of abuse: Among victims, 38.4% said all incidents occurred within one year; 21.8% said one to two years; 28%, two to four years; 11.8% longer.
Victims per priest: 55.7% with one victim; 26.9% with two or three; 13.9% with four to nine; 3.5% with 10 or more (these 149 priests caused 27% of allegations).
Abuse locations: 40.9% at priest's residence; 16.3% in church; 42.8% elsewhere.
Known cost to dioceses and religious orders: $572,507,094 (does not include the $85 million Boston settlement and other expenses after research was concluded). (Hartford Courant, 2/27/04)
Yep, and a couple of the women thought to be underage were actually in their early twenties. CPS said they had no documents, then it turns out the women had Utah driver’s licenses and Utah birth certificates that backed up their claims. Oops on CPS.
As if lying is the only problem.
If they operated in good faith, then the officers and the judge are incompetent.
Application of Texas law under individual due process? Although Texas sodomy laws have been overturned, by the federal courts under the emanations from the penumbra of the federal Constitution, those against child sexual abuse are still in force.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN_QG1UqHLs
Apparently some of the buses used to cart off the FLDS kids were donated by the Baptists.
By design? Perhaps. An Approved Government religion? For now.
I am glad the Baptists provided the buses to help out. I understood that there weren’t many available, and the First Baptist Church also provided care for the children. Good people...Thank you for the video.
But hey, its not a tank though, right? They needed protection from rattle snakes.
Their equivalent in Jolly Olde already has IIRC. Our time is coming, but unlike the Brits, Americans are armed, quite well armed in fact.
Very well said.
What many people here on FR fail to understand is that freedom is more important than the trumped up stuff and made up “facts” that are being released by the CPS.
We must not surrender to the government minions that demand to rule every aspect of our lives.
hehehe
I don't know whether this happened in this case in Texas, but it happens plenty in other states. When the parents don't get to attend or have a rep at the hearing before the judge, it's much easier to pull off.
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