Bush Plays the Hitler Card (by Pat Buchanan - sickening!)

Townhall.com ^ | May 20, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[EveningStar]

"A little learning is a dangerous thing," wrote Alexander Pope.

Daily, our 43rd president testifies to Pope's point.

Addressing the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's birth, Bush said those who say we should negotiate with Iran or Hamas are like the fools who said we should negotiate with Adolf Hitler.

[jwalsh07]

Not really, the bottom line is that Pat would abandon our long time ally Israel to the islamofascists at the drop of a hat. I wish that weren’t so but I don’t look at the world through rose colored glasses. Pat is the type of guy who avoids the fight with our enemy while allowing our friends to take it in the neck.

[pgkdan]

Yes, see #22, in addition to being an anti-Semite, Pat Buchanan is incompetent to discuss history. He is an ignorant babbling fool, if that makes you feel any better.

I agree that Pat may be an anti-semite. At the very least he is anti-zionist, but he is not an incompetent historian. He is not ignorant and he is not a babbling or any other kind of a fool. At times he can be very eloquent.

[RockinRight]

[fish hawk]

Buchanan, Ron Paul, etc. Are not all Libertarians crazy idiots. They are worse than Liberals.

[ScaniaBoy]

I think you should send this article to Pat Buchanan. He might learn something. :-)

Great find!!! (FR at its finest.)

[Radix]

So Pat's position is that the USA should negotiate with Hamas, et al? Groups that have sworn to destroy an ally of America?

Buchanan is seriously missing something in this article.

That is too bad because I believe that he is brilliant and I have learned things from him, but this article was very poorly conceived. It is stupid.

[DoughtyOne]

From March to August 1939, Hitler tried to negotiate Danzig. But the Poles, confident in their British war guarantee, refused. So, Hitler cut his deal with Stalin, and the two invaded and divided Poland.  The cost of the war that came of a refusal to negotiate Danzig was millions of Polish dead, the Katyn massacre, Treblinka, Sobibor, Auschwitz, the annihilation of the Home Army in the Warsaw uprising of 1944, and 50 years of Nazi and Stalinist occupation, barbarism and terror.

When someone demands something, it is not a negotiation.  It is what is termed an ultimatum.  You either take an action that I demand, or I attack and your people pay the consequences.

Here Buchanan blames Poland for not surrendering what Hitler wanted.  Here he blames the British for standing up with Poland.  Where does he blame Hitler for anything?

Because Poland was unreasonable, and the British were stupid, Hitler had no other choice.  That's the inference.

Millions of Polish died, the Katyn massacre, Treblinka, Soibor, Aushwitz, the annihilation of the Home Army in the Warsaw uprising of 1944, and fifty years of Nazi and Stallinish occupation, barbarism and terror were not the evil deeds of Adolf Hiter.  They were the natural progression of things due to the intransegence of Poland and the British.

The mind numbing stupor one would have to be in, to develop or accept this belief system expressed by Buchanan, is beyond description.

Hitler was poised to take over the world.  He was a maniacle barbarian.  He got what maniacle barbarians get.  Good riddance.  Hitler developed that army for a reason.  His intentions for world domination were clear.  The idea that appeasement would have rendered him harmless is just so much tripe.  That would imply the guy was reasoned, or had normal humanitarian aspirations.  Take a look at what the man did.  Try to make the case that he was just old buddy Adolf, and we would have become best of friends if only...  Bull shit!

This is Appologist 101 thinking.  No thanks.

I voted for this man.  On some matters he's pretty sharp.  On others he is beyond pretty dull.

[EveningStar]

That was the paragraph that really caught my eye. Pat needs to be kicked out of the mainstream conservative movement.

[DoughtyOne]

In all negotiation there must be some thread of commonality. There was none between Poland and Germany.

There is none between terrorists and the United States.

Chamberlain was an idiot. There was not commonality between Western Europe and Hitler.

Hitler had a shopping list that the other nations shouldn’t and couldn’t have signed on to. Chamberlain should have known that. He didn’t. He was a dupe of the first order.

Here Buchanan sounds like he’s built of the same stripe. Disgusting!

[allmendream]

He was kicked out. A long time ago. Now liberals like to keep him around to make Conservatives look like ignorant bigots. He is the best there is at what he does, and what he does sure is stupid.

[JewishRighter]

Touche, Enchante! Well done!

Love the tag line, too.

[DoughtyOne]

I think he basically kicked himself out long ago.

I did take objection to him being called the next Hitler by the Republican leadership in 1996. He does however have some strange views as it relates to the Germany of the 1930s, the Middle-East and Israel.

I have seen him say that Israel has every right to exist and defend itself, so I don’t buy into the anti-Semite diatribe, but he is his own worst enemy.

[BlazingArizona]

How can someone who can write so many brilliant columns on domestic matters such as cultural issues and sovereignty, write such imbecilic drivel on foreign policy issues?

This was carried on Lugnut Rockwell earlier today.

Buchanan is totally distorting the history here. By the time of the Danzig negotiations, Hitler's modus operandi was well known in Europe: he would ide tify a German minority in a neighboring country, then claim the land it happened to be on as German territory. After country after country gave up slices of territory to Germany, Poland decided to stand its ground when Hitler claimed the Polish coastline between mainland Germany and he state of Prussia. Britain backed up Poland with a mutual defense pact, and the war began. Everyone know that of Poland had given in, Hitler would repeat the tactic somewhere else. It would be only a matter of time until he would claim Missouri under this doctrine.

[The_Republican]

Tell me again how Ahmedilittle5foot2inchhacknijidad is worse than Mao and Stalin?

As Pat pointed out, Libyans actually were a State that sponsored Terrorism. We had no trouble negotiating with Gaddafi, then why risk a long bloody ugly war because of some made up insanity?

Why are we in negotiations with Iranians at this very moment in Baghdad?

Are those negotiations legitimizing Iran?

Or maybe its the new foreign policy doctrine - deny in public that we are negotiating, but meet secretly in middle of a night in a dungeon so no one can see we are negotiating with “Axis of Evil”.

Its ridiculous rhetoric and only harm can come from it. Harm in form was a war that can and should be avoided. Harm at the ballot box. Harm to how America is viewed in the whole world and not just middle-east.

Without Iran’s co-operation how can Iraq be resolved?

Because a little despot who likes to draw attention to himself by launching verbal attacks on Isreal, we are going to ignore diplomacy so we can blow another Trillion or more dollars and invaluable lives?

Don’t be fooled by Sastani’s spirit of co-operation. He is only co-operating untill its his minions who are in Power in Iraq. If Iran is attacked, then we would be up against not only waves of suicide bombers coming from Iran, but also 65% of the population of Iraq. Also remember that Iran has border with Afghanistan. They will cause mischief on that front as well. We will be bogged down in decade of war if not more. The cost in terms of lives and money is incomprehensible. Whatever few descent people are left in that region would also be radicalized and the PROBLEM THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DEFEAT would only multiply.

Diplomatic solution combined with internal pressure to empower anti-mullah forces is the ONLY good solution. Rest is nearderthal chest beating and is going to lead us to a Major catostrophe.

Do not forget that its Iraq War and Record spending that GOP is facing majore league whopping. Starting another debacle would probably wipe GOP from face of the Earth.

THINK BEFORE FOLLOWING PIED-PIPER OF WASHINGTON.

War is not needed, affordable or necessary. If Isreali PMs can negotiate with Arafat, we sure as hell can negotiate with Iran. Not doing so would tantamount to extereme stupidity and would be betrayal of responsibility that Americans have given President Bush.

[BlazingArizona]

Read as far as “Written by Pat Buchanan” and then scream “anti-semite!”

Buchanan is not being an anti-Semite in this piece. He's just being an idiot.

[Oztrich Boy]

What a frikkin’ moron. There’s no such thing as a “Hitler Card.”

Google before you leap

[trane250]

He defended Iwan Demjanjuk and other former Nazis against prosecution for war crimes.

Pat was right about Demyanuk. The Israeli supreme court reversed Demyanuk's conviction and freed him.

[BlazingArizona]

Just because people are biased or have certain politics doesn’t mean facts can be thrown out. No one confronts the facts of what Pat is saying.

I just did. By the time Poland was invaded, Hitler's strategy of grabbing pieces of other countries based on putative German ethnicity was well known to European heads of state. No one, given the facts available at the time, would have had a reason to suppose that Hitler would actually want to ally with Poland against Stalin.

[nikos1121]

You’re right, this article makes me really angry. Everyone loves to Bash Bush. We fortunately had the right guy in there when 911 hit. I think the dems have clearly undercut him by failing to pass much legislation to help us with this war on terror, energy costs etc. Pelosi is still doing this as we speak with Colombia. The American people in the end are the ones who have suffered. I don’t see any benefit to Bush speaking directly with Iran’s leaders. You speak to them through various conduits as I’m sure they have been. But one on one...in the White House? That’s stupid.

[indcons]

LOL...Buchanan is not a libertarian. Do you even know what what these terms mean?