Posted on 05/20/2008 11:24:57 AM PDT by Red Badger
A British company, Hydrofuel Technologies Ltd, is urging motorists to use water to reduce fuel costs with a car battery-powered onboard electrolyser, on its website, (www.runyourcaronwater.co.uk ). Hydrofuel’s DIY guide explains how motorists can convert cars to a water-burning hybrid to improve engine performance and save money. It says users of its system have reported mileage increases of between 50% and 100%.
Nadim Hussain, the firm’s MD, says: “We want to spread the word that water can be used to help power a car alongside petrol or diesel, and introduce this technology to the UK on a large scale, so that motorists can take control of their fuel costs and reduce their carbon ‘tyreprint’ at the same time.”
The identity and location of his company is not identified on the website, which offers its products priced in dollars. It is not connected to the Canadian company Global Hydrofuel Technologies Inc, (www.globalhydrofuel.com), which markets technology using aluminium to assist H2 electrolysis.
Runyourcaronwater’s manual explains how to use electricity from a car's battery to separate water into HHO (2 parts hydrogen, 1 part oxygen). It says introducing HHO to the fuel mixture significantly improves the combustion cycle of the engine, resulting in improved mileage and lower emissions. Unlike the product of hydrogen fuel cell technology, this combustible gas is only extracted and burned as needed, making it “completely safe” and removing the need for storage tanks. The only by-product released into the air is water.
Hussain says users can expect “increased engine power, smoother gear changing and a cleaner, quieter, longer-lasting engine”.
Runyourcaronwater.co.uk is offering membership at a special, time-limited price of $97 (about £49), which includes its instruction manual, free updates and technical support, as well as access to an online marketplace where members can buy ready-made systems from other members around the world. And, if a motorist wants to go down the DIY route, the materials needed to convert the car can be bought cheaply from any hardware store.
Hussain adds: “Our water-hybrid system is cheaper and more effective than other forms of alternative fuel technology, such as LPG conversion, and will reduce the speed at which we are using up our declining oil reserves - without the environmental costs of bio-fuel production.” He says thousands of successful ‘water-conversions’ have been carried out around the world, providing proof that this technology works”.
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It would be a little rough on your antifreeze.
The concept would work but would be expesive and complicated, there are better solutions for recovering energy from waste heat coming down the line.
google thermoelectric alternator for a sample.
However, if introducing H2 into the gas combustion process improves the gas/diesel combustion efficiency, it could possibly be a net gain in overall efficiency.
HHO is hydrogen gas and oxygen gas separated by electrolysis or some other means, but not combined until it’s “ignited”. Another term is “Brown’s Gas” and Oxyhydrogen..............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
Perhaps Nancy Pelosi could write legislation repealing the first and second laws of thermodynamics?
You don't think someone named "Hussain" would lie do you?
Democrats don’t repeal laws, they write them!..........
This “Hussain” ain’t going “Barack to the Future”.............
They should be very careful. Just a little dihydrogen monoxide can kill.
Physics hasn’t changed. Improved combustion means you get more BTUs out of the fuel you are using. The extra energy you obtain is coming from your main fuel burning more efficiently. The energy from the H2 in the combustion process is pretty much a very minor loss compared to the energy used to create the H2.
A good example of the heat loss from incomplete fuel combustion occurs at the catalytic converter. The heat created by the action of the converter would instead be obtained in the engine with the H2 added. Simple physics.
This scammer has been all over craiglist trying to get mechanics to train on his voodoo product.
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“How does a whiff of hydrogen make the fuel burn more efficiently?”
Adding H2 changes the combustion chemistry. It’s molecular thing.
No, and here is why.
It is impossible to sustain the reaction.
Every time you change one type of energy to another you will loose some due to inefficiencies.
Examples:
Alternator is rotational energy potential. Its losses occur through mechanical friction, air resistance, and electrical resistance in the wires, and kinetic energy through heat caused by the resistance in the wires.
Once you have the voltage (electrical potential), you want to break the bond in the water. So where does the chemical energy come from. As a matter of fact the water molecule is in a lower energy state than its components. By separating them you can then liberate this chemical potential thought combustion. However, there are still inherent losses of energy in the electrical resistance of the electrolysis circuit. These losses occur as kinetic energy losses (heat).
Now that you have the elements separated, you want to burn it. Once again, you loose energy through mechanical resistance in the engine, and the thermal energy loosed thought the exhaust, and absorbed by the engine block.
As you can see there are so many opportunities for energy loss in this system, that it is absolutely impossible to sustain it.
I think I understand what you’re saying.
Yes, there is a huge amount of energy lost in the exhaust. If that waste energy could recapture, then you would improve the efficacy of the system.
As fast as the alternator goes, it is much less than the amount of energy lost through heat.
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