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What's wrong with same sex marriage? It endangers the family, confuses our children's sexual orientation and it marginalizes traditional religious and cultural views about marriage and the family. To the Left, the one word that trumps all discussion is "compassion." Same sex marriage is a newly-coined right that has never existed in all of human history. A gay man or a gay woman is always free to marry someone of the opposite sex. There has never been a prohibition on that. Compassion for homosexuals sounds wonderful but the sort of compassion the California Supreme Court mandated last week changed the world as we know it. As Dennis Prager says, that's exactly why California's voters must amend their state's constitution.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 05/19/2008 9:44:34 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Was there anything worth more fighting for?


2 posted on 05/19/2008 9:51:24 PM PDT by givemELL
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To the Left, the one word that trumps all discussion is "compassion."

Like "Compassionate" Conservative?  I rest my case.

California has been destroyed by one of the two major political parties.  What may surprise some people, is that it wasn't the Democrats.  It was the Republican Party in California that royally screwed the state into the ground.

In 2002 Conservative Bill Simon ran for Governor.  Bill didn't get any support from the Republican party leadership, didn't get but one visit from Bush during his campaign, and didn't get any major funding.  He still came within five points of beating Gray Davis, a 2.5% swing vote to victory.

One year later and Arnold Schwarzenegger was being groomed to run for governor during the recall.  It's just shocking how incredibly little the party did for Simon and how much it did for Schwarzenegger.

If Simon would have been elected, he would have been handed a state with a small manageable deficit.  He could have set about to get things in order to avoid higher deficits and redice the existing deficit.  Instead, we had Schwarzenegger foisted off on us.  The rest is history.  We're now something like $40 billion dollars worse off in debt.

By ignoring Bill Simon, the California Repbulican Party leadership screwed this state worse than it has ever been screwed.  It reaches the level of declaring those people California's public enemies number 1 through...

3 posted on 05/19/2008 10:00:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will ultimately stink!)
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It’s the “deconstruction” of marriage, that is the destruction of marriage. The only thing left to say is that, “marriage deserved what it got.”


4 posted on 05/19/2008 10:01:35 PM PDT by dr_lew
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“Same sex marriage is a newly-coined right that has never existed in all of human history.”

And I bet everything I own that this was not what the Founders of this country had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.


5 posted on 05/19/2008 10:09:05 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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I am not a football player. But if I demand that the government decree that I be officially recognized as a super-bowl champion, then what harm is there in that?

Whatever standing the law forces others to convey to me is not their damn business!</satire>

6 posted on 05/19/2008 10:23:34 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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People seem to not make a connection that change in and of itself is not inherently good. You can have change, and have it be terrible. The Russian revolution is one of them. The Chinese communist revolution is another.


9 posted on 05/19/2008 10:47:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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I had an argument on YouTube with a couple homosexuals, one of whom is in the military and is fighting don’t ask don’t tell. They are determined to destroy the institution of marriage. gaymilitaryman would not admit that the ideal is for a mom and dad to raise a child. He wants to see the data. This battle is monumental.

On the YouTube I maintained that, once the definition of marriage is changed, anything goes. Ultimately, there will be a guy who will bring a lawsuit to marry his goat. Why not? All you have to do is change marriage again so it can be interspecies. If judges so proclaim it, that is what it will be. Right now, consent and the ability to contract is required. So what. Change that.

Go enjoy the discussion and participate if you wish — http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ov35-fAOyP8


16 posted on 05/19/2008 11:32:18 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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Thank you for posting this excellent essay.

A friend once told me how eager couples were to start families after WWII and how cherished children were at that time.
Marriage and family was sacrosanct.
Buxom women were the ideal.

Gradually, the ideal of woman went from curvy, child bearing hips to flat chested, boyish looking nymphs.

As children became more devalued, so did womanly women.

It’s no wonder society has become so numb to the assault on marriage.
Are there any real men left in California?


17 posted on 05/19/2008 11:40:15 PM PDT by b9
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Since the arrival of our twins last year, I have realized that men and woman really are fundamentally different. My husband’s and my approaches to childraising are completely different. And I have come to realize that if our boys had just one of us in the picture, their upbringing would be very different than it is now, and not for the better. Men and women bring different aspects to childrearing. And that is why I don’t think gay marriage is a good thing. Two men or two women raising a child are going to give that kid a very different view of the world and what men and women are like than a man and a woman together would. What you grow up with is what you think is normal. I don’t think that normalizing the “two men” or “two women” model of parenting is a good idea at all. Kids grew up in the past with that model, if say they were orphaned and ended up with a pair of bachelor uncles, or maybe with their mom and a grandmother raising them, but they knew it was not how the majority of the world lived, and nobody tried to tell them it was normal.


21 posted on 05/20/2008 12:39:38 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Marxist Hillary and Socialist Obama will trash the USA for the next 30 years. Vote McCain.)
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First, the arrogance of four individuals to impose their understanding of what is right and wrong on the rest of society.

And yet, this country was founded upon the principle of the rest of society not imposing itself upon an individual.

It's a shame that government ever got into the marriage business.

22 posted on 05/20/2008 12:49:42 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Unless California voters amend the California Constitution or Congress amends the U.S. Constitution, four justices of the California Supreme Court will have changed American society more than any four individuals since Washington, Jefferson, Adams and Madison.

Can someone tell me when we transitioned from a representative republic governed by a constitution, to a judicial oligarchy?

24 posted on 05/20/2008 1:05:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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It’s up to the US Supreme Court and the American People now to stop this runaway train.


29 posted on 05/20/2008 3:35:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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If marriage isn't one man/one woman as Kalifornia has ruled, then it can be anything any adult or group of adults want it to be.
30 posted on 05/20/2008 3:38:04 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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The issue no one seems to be focussing on is the financial impact of the ruling. Follow the money. In California, gay couples will be entitled to such things as survivor benefits for state pensions, other social welfare benefits, etc. One of the reasons DOMA passed in Congress was to prevent the expansion of federal benefits to gay couples for such programs as SS, Medicare, etc.


40 posted on 05/20/2008 9:20:22 AM PDT by kabar
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Health insurance will go up as hetereosexual roomates will get “married” to half medical insurance costs...all of a sudden all the hipsters sharing Malibu Beach apartments will suddenly “fall in love” and get “married”. Maybe get a tax break also by filing joint income tax returns...


53 posted on 05/20/2008 1:54:09 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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