California Decision Will Radically Change Society (Why Same Sex Marriage Is Wrong Alert)

Townhall.com ^ | 5/20/2008 | Dennis Prager

[goldstategop]

What's wrong with same sex marriage? It endangers the family, confuses our children's sexual orientation and it marginalizes traditional religious and cultural views about marriage and the family. To the Left, the one word that trumps all discussion is "compassion." Same sex marriage is a newly-coined right that has never existed in all of human history. A gay man or a gay woman is always free to marry someone of the opposite sex. There has never been a prohibition on that. Compassion for homosexuals sounds wonderful but the sort of compassion the California Supreme Court mandated last week changed the world as we know it. As Dennis Prager says, that's exactly why California's voters must amend their state's constitution.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[givemELL]

Was there anything worth more fighting for?

[DoughtyOne]

To the Left, the one word that trumps all discussion is "compassion."

Like "Compassionate" Conservative?  I rest my case.

California has been destroyed by one of the two major political parties.  What may surprise some people, is that it wasn't the Democrats.  It was the Republican Party in California that royally screwed the state into the ground.

In 2002 Conservative Bill Simon ran for Governor.  Bill didn't get any support from the Republican party leadership, didn't get but one visit from Bush during his campaign, and didn't get any major funding.  He still came within five points of beating Gray Davis, a 2.5% swing vote to victory.

One year later and Arnold Schwarzenegger was being groomed to run for governor during the recall.  It's just shocking how incredibly little the party did for Simon and how much it did for Schwarzenegger.

If Simon would have been elected, he would have been handed a state with a small manageable deficit.  He could have set about to get things in order to avoid higher deficits and redice the existing deficit.  Instead, we had Schwarzenegger foisted off on us.  The rest is history.  We're now something like $40 billion dollars worse off in debt.

By ignoring Bill Simon, the California Repbulican Party leadership screwed this state worse than it has ever been screwed.  It reaches the level of declaring those people California's public enemies number 1 through...

[dr_lew]

It’s the “deconstruction” of marriage, that is the destruction of marriage. The only thing left to say is that, “marriage deserved what it got.”

[353FMG]

“Same sex marriage is a newly-coined right that has never existed in all of human history.”

And I bet everything I own that this was not what the Founders of this country had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.

[AndyTheBear]

I am not a football player. But if I demand that the government decree that I be officially recognized as a super-bowl champion, then what harm is there in that?

Whatever standing the law forces others to convey to me is not their damn business!</satire>

[Loud Mime]

These liberals want to bring society down to their level, down to their deviancy. With the lawyers on their side, they have amassed quite a team to deficate all over the foundation set by our founding fathers.

[verklaring]

“Same sex marriage is a newly-coined right that has never existed in all of human history.”

The quotation is not strictly accurate, The Roman Caesar Nero, "married" a castratie by taking the role of the husband in one of his unions and in a later "marriage" took the effeminate role. Roman society in his day also had child prostitution, open incest, bestiality, gladiator contests, entertainment consisting of watching people being burned or tortured to dead or killed and eaten by animals etc. Christians and Jews were especially the objects of this barbarism.

Self indulgent depravity is not compassion.

I suspect the founding fathers, who were well versed in classical history, if they had this in mind at all, wrote the constitution with a view to preventing it, as you point out.

[Secret Agent Man]

People seem to not make a connection that change in and of itself is not inherently good. You can have change, and have it be terrible. The Russian revolution is one of them. The Chinese communist revolution is another.

[Secret Agent Man]

The Gospel. And the right to tell others about it.

[goldstategop]

I would say its accurate. No religion or moral philosophy ever conceived of same sex marriage as legitimate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

Some change is good. Life itself is change. But change for the sake of change seldom leads to a positive result.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Navy Patriot]

The Gospel. And the right to tell others about it.

When can violence be used it that fight?

[napscoordinator]

Was there anything worth more fighting for?

I am not sure that Americans have the stomach to fight for this. I don’t sense the outrage among most people except for on this great site. Day to day people don’t even mention it among those I see. Does anyone else encounter this? It seems to me most don’t care or think it was inevitable anyway.

[verklaring]

No religion or moral philosophy ever conceived of same sex marriage as legitimate.

True, paganism at the time of Nero could hardly be called a moral philosophy.

The problem is the California judges have grown up in a culture that has had a religious and moral framework. Their ruling was an overt act of repudiation of it, a direct assault upon it, and a thumbing their nose at the people all at the same time.

In a sense that makes them more morally degraded than Nero, certainly as to judgment and justice.

[doug from upland]

I had an argument on YouTube with a couple homosexuals, one of whom is in the military and is fighting don’t ask don’t tell. They are determined to destroy the institution of marriage. gaymilitaryman would not admit that the ideal is for a mom and dad to raise a child. He wants to see the data. This battle is monumental.

On the YouTube I maintained that, once the definition of marriage is changed, anything goes. Ultimately, there will be a guy who will bring a lawsuit to marry his goat. Why not? All you have to do is change marriage again so it can be interspecies. If judges so proclaim it, that is what it will be. Right now, consent and the ability to contract is required. So what. Change that.

Go enjoy the discussion and participate if you wish — http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ov35-fAOyP8

[b9]

Thank you for posting this excellent essay.

A friend once told me how eager couples were to start families after WWII and how cherished children were at that time.
Marriage and family was sacrosanct.
Buxom women were the ideal.

Gradually, the ideal of woman went from curvy, child bearing hips to flat chested, boyish looking nymphs.

As children became more devalued, so did womanly women.

It’s no wonder society has become so numb to the assault on marriage.
Are there any real men left in California?

[Ol' Sparky]

In 2002 Conservative Bill Simon ran for Governor. Bill didn't get any support from the Republican party leadership, didn't get but one visit from Bush during his campaign, and didn't get any major funding. He still came within five points of beating Gray Davis, a 2.5% swing vote to victory.

And, don't forget that every poll had McClintock beating Bustamante easily in a head-to-head matchup. But geniuses like Sean Hannity decided that the lesser-of-two-liberals strategy was a good idea and used the full weight of his show to support Schwarzenegger.

[Ol' Sparky]

And I bet everything I own that this was not what the Founders of this country had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.

Given that Founders all believed homosexuality was a serious crime, you'd be right.

[Ol' Sparky]

It seems to me most don’t care or think it was inevitable anyway.

It's hard not to feel that way when dictatorial judges essentially are in control of the nation. Making matters worse is the fact the Republican party -- both RINOS and conservative beltway types -- either wish social issues would go away or want to deemphasize them.