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Two Million Britons Emigrate In 10 Years
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-20-2008 | James Kirkup

Posted on 05/19/2008 7:24:55 PM PDT by blam

Two million Britons emigrate in 10 years

By James Kirkup, Political Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:59AM BST 20/05/2008

Two million British citizens have left the UK in a decade, the greatest exodus from this country in almost a century, new figures will show.

Some historians say the departure of two million Britons in a decade is almost unparalleled in the country's history

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) will release figures showing that more than 200,000 Britons emigrated during 2006. That will take the total number who left the country between 1997 and 2006 to 1.97 million.

Another 1.58 million foreign nationals resident in Britain left during the same period.

However, 3.9 million foreigners arrived over the decade, including more than 500,000 in 2006.

The body will publish the raft of immigration figures on Tuesday, as MPs prepare to dismiss the national statisticians’ data as “not fit for purpose” and demand an overhaul of the way population movements are measured.

On Thursday, the Treasury sub-committee of the House of Commons will conclude that the lack of reliable and up-to-date figures for immigrant populations is hampering Government policy both nationally and locally.

ONS figures only go back to 1991, but some historians say the departure of two million Britons in a decade is almost unparalleled in the country’s history.

According to figures compiled by Jay Winter, of Yale University, the last comparable exodus came between 1911 and 1914, when 2.4 million people left Britain. The other significant spike in emigration came in the late 1950s and early 1960s, when thousands of Britons left to start new lives in Australia, Canada and the United States.

The Institute for Public Policy Research, a think-tank, has estimated that there are more than 5.5 million British citizens living abroad.

Jill Rutter, a senior migration researcher at the IPPR, said the recent exodus marked “probably the greatest period of emigration we’ve ever seen”.

She said: “A lot of this is people retiring abroad, which is a relatively new phenomenon and is only possible because we are all better off .

“There is also a much more internationalised labour market and workforce — it is now quite commonplace for people to go abroad to work for a year or more.” Immigrants who come to this country, gain citizenship and then leave also add to the total of British emigrants.

Opposition parties say that some emigrants have been driven out of Britain by its high levels of crime and taxation.

“This explosion in emigration is inevitably a reflection of the state of the country under a Labour government,” said David Davis, the shadow home secretary.


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KEYWORDS: britons; demographics; emigrate; million
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To: Clemenza
Lots of Brits in Spain


41 posted on 05/19/2008 9:21:54 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell
LOL. One of Ben Kingsley's best performances as Don Logan!

It is amazing how many English and Irish pubs you see in Spain nowadays, and not just in Torremollinos.

42 posted on 05/19/2008 9:25:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: enough_idiocy
Urban flight. Mass emigration from MA and NY (two states with more people moving out than in).

NYC has actually gained population since the early 1990s. The parts of NY state that have LOST population are the rustbelt and small towns upstate.

43 posted on 05/19/2008 9:27:31 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: blam

How many went to meheco?


44 posted on 05/19/2008 9:28:19 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Clemenza
Gandhi he wasn't!


45 posted on 05/19/2008 9:50:53 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Aria

I do not know the exact date that it was written, but it must have been very recently. I received the article a few days ago from someone in Europe.


46 posted on 05/19/2008 9:56:26 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is not liberating.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeah I don’t want all the white europeans in the US cause they will likely just vote for the same things that caused them to leave their original countries.

(Not all of them but enough to screw us up worse.)

My ancestors left that place centuries ago. Any thoughts I ever had of relocating anywhere pretty much ended with all this Islam is gonna take over stuff. :)


47 posted on 05/19/2008 9:59:24 PM PDT by modest proposal (Vote Obama: Support inviting anti-American zealots into the white house for tea.)
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To: Redbob
Maybe this is why, in Tennessee these days you’re never far from a British accent!

In my experience, there is no town in Arizona so small that you can't find a limey or two living there.

48 posted on 05/19/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: blam

My new Son-in-law is a Brit,
The Top ten reasons they chose to live in the US.
10. Gas is much cheaper
9. More personal freedom
8. Taxes are much cheaper
7. Fewer people on welfare and fewer poor people
6. Health Care and hospitals are far superior
5. Conservative values
4. Clothes, Food utilities is much cheaper.
3. Ability to participate in politics and change laws.
2. Ability to change personal circumstances through education and hard work. (American Dream)
1. Fewer immigrants that are unwilling to assimilate. England has been overrun by immigrants from third world countries and European Union. Muslims are setting out make England a muslim country and will do it any way they can.


49 posted on 05/20/2008 3:44:50 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: Clemenza
Yes but mostly people moving to NYC are European and Latino immigrants before they resettle elsewhere in the United States.

It's far too expensive to stay there for long and there are better (and cheaper) opportunities in other places, especially in the American South.

50 posted on 05/20/2008 5:52:09 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Actually, the Lower East Side and the hipster hells of Brooklyn (especially Williamsburgh) are filled with immigrants from Cleveland, the DC area, and even California who are either Trustafarians or involved in arts/media. Manhattan is a melting pot of the very wealthy of all nationalities, while the poorer immigrants (Latino, Asian, eastern European, etc.) tend to settle in Queens, the Bronx, and outer Brooklyn.

Interesting statistic: 2006 was the first year since the early 1960s when white babies outnumbered babies of all other races. The "pale tide" is even overtaking much of Harlem and Washington Heights as we speak.

Judging from the fact that real estate is still up (albeit slightly) while real estate in the sunbelt/south is down and, in some cases, plumetting, I would say NYC (and the inner suburbs) is in better shape than most places.

51 posted on 05/20/2008 11:38:19 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Clemenza

That is a bit surprising. According to Pat Buchanan’s Death of the West book, rich white folks are supposedly too occupied to have children. But the recent trends in Manhattan do not seem to fit that pattern.


52 posted on 05/20/2008 1:22:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Clemenza
Interesting statistic: 2006 was the first year since the early 1960s when white babies outnumbered babies of all other races. The "pale tide" is even overtaking much of Harlem and Washington Heights as we speak.

In Surge in Manhattan Toddlers, Rich White Families Lead Way

53 posted on 05/20/2008 2:05:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Clemenza

I guess I was thinking of NYC - more people move out of NYC than move in
http://westbronxnews.blogspot.com/2007/09/surprise-more-people-move-out-of-nyc.html
http://www.lesjones.com/posts/003214.shtml

Here’s details on MA (I know you didn’t question this)
In every single year over the last 12 years, Mass. lost more people than it attracted (excluding international
immigrants). Mass. has suffered a net loss of 213,191
domestic out-migrants.
http://www.massinc.org/fileadmin/researchreports/mass_migration/MassMigration_report_exec_summary.pdf


54 posted on 05/20/2008 4:47:00 PM PDT by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disagree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: enough_idiocy
NYC Population:

1970 7,894,862 1.5% 1980 7,071,639 -10.4% 1990 7,322,564 3.5% 2000 8,008,288 9.4%

Most of the population loss is NOT in NYC, it is in the economically depressed igloo that is Upstate.

55 posted on 05/20/2008 4:51:29 PM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: enough_idiocy; MinorityRepublican

“New York is the most populous city in the United States, with an estimated 2007 population of 8,274,527 (up from 7.3 million in 1990).[57] This amounts to about 40% of New York State’s population and a similar percentage of the metropolitan regional population. Over the last decade the city’s population has been increasing and demographers estimate New York’s population will reach between 9.2 and 9.5 million by 2030.[103]”


56 posted on 05/20/2008 4:53:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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