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Susan Estrich: Year of the Sweetie?
FOXNews.com ^ | May 18, 2008 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 05/19/2008 6:39:17 AM PDT by NCDragon

LOS ANGELES — Have we gone from the "Year of the Woman" to the "Year of the Sweetie"?

So it appears. It's not the "sweetie" part that gets me, and I suspect a lot of other women. It's the concern that, not to sound trite, some of the guys out there, maybe including the probable Democratic nominee for President, just don't "get it."

If you can remember that far back, this was supposed to be another one of those "Year of the Woman" elections, the first time a woman was entering the race as the frontrunner for her party's nomination, with the big question being whether women would see this as the historic occasion it was and abandon their concerns about whether Hillary should've dumped Bill over Monica and whether it was her ambition that kept them together. Hillary's problems with women, going back to the "stand by her man" comment and her lack of interest in baking chocolate chip cookies, have been discussed literally for decades. During her first Senate race, it took her months of listening, the patronizing sexism of her opponent in their one and only debate, and a particularly effective ad by a breast cancer survivor reminding women that Hillary would be there for them on the issues that matter, before women moved to support her in major numbers and handed her a substantial majority of the votes. So there was some doubt, this time, about whether women would support one of their own or, maybe more fundamentally, see Hillary Rodham Clinton that way.

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1 posted on 05/19/2008 6:39:17 AM PDT by NCDragon
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To: NCDragon

I know this won’t be popular, but I think people who use endearments to strangers tend to be very nice people, comfortable in their own skin.


2 posted on 05/19/2008 6:42:26 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Some “endearments” can be very condescending.........


3 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:04 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Hildy

I agree, Saying just a minute sweetie is much more pleasant than just a minute whoever you are


4 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:56 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Hildy
This is not a big issue really. However I dont think it was really sweetie that was the problem. It was the dismissive tone. A tone Obama seems to take whenever he is not in a highly prepped photo op situation. He even used the same tone in the “apology” call.
5 posted on 05/19/2008 6:46:10 AM PDT by mthom
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To: NCDragon

Susan, honey, that’s a cute little article. Now could you run and get us some coffee? ;)


6 posted on 05/19/2008 6:46:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: NCDragon

Susan seems to have had her face totally redone again.

If Obama had said to the reporter, “Sweetie, it’s not the President’s job to do a d*mn thing for America’s auto workers,” I’d vote for him.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 6:47:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
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To: NCDragon

Why do feminists have such chips on their shoulders? I always take it as a compliment whenever I’m called sweetie or as it the practice down here “hun”. Yes I get that some people can be condenscending, but not everyone is looking to hold us down women! Maybe if the feminist threw that heavy chip off their shoulders, they’d be able to rise a little further.


8 posted on 05/19/2008 6:47:12 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (The only thing dumber than a Republican or a Democrat is when the two work together - Lewis Black)
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To: NCDragon

Hey Susan, you ran the least likeable woman in America in this election, who also happens to have a litany of corruption filling her resume. Don’t complain to us that people didn’t embrace her.


9 posted on 05/19/2008 6:47:40 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Red Badger
I grew up hearing "sweetie" and "honey" and "sugar" - and yes, it can be used in a condescending manner, but the inflection of your voice indicates that.

I am guilty of using these terms myself - usually in a nice way - and rarely to offend, but occasionally a "Bless your heart Sugar" does sneak in there.

10 posted on 05/19/2008 6:49:56 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Why do feminists have such chips on their shoulders?

How much time do you have?

11 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (May 17 was my Tenth Anniversary on FR)
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To: Hildy
I think people who use endearments to strangers tend to be very nice people

I agree snookums.

12 posted on 05/19/2008 6:51:24 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Hillary/Obama or John Mccain - -easy choice for me.)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
Maybe if the feminist threw that heavy chip off their shoulders, they’d be able to rise a little further

Nicely done -

13 posted on 05/19/2008 6:51:36 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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To: NCDragon

The first real woman candidate for President is sinking fast and the man leading the race is calling women “sweetie”.

Delicious.


14 posted on 05/19/2008 6:52:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: mthom

Exactly. Throw “sweetie” on top of it and it is not only dismissive but condescending as well.


15 posted on 05/19/2008 6:53:47 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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16 posted on 05/19/2008 6:54:18 AM PDT by evets (I have a crush on Hillary.)
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To: Hildy
I seem to remember George W Bush said something similar to a female and got racked over the coals for it? And nobody came to his defense

With that being said, there is no excuse for what he said. It was wrong and it was definitely condescending, imo. Obama, as a man, was talking down to her.

17 posted on 05/19/2008 6:55:37 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: raptor29
Hey Susan, you ran the least likeable woman in America in this election, who also happens to have a litany of corruption filling her resume. Don’t complain to us that people didn’t embrace her.

The situation in a nutshell, but Hillary Clinton must have been defeated by sexism.

After all if you vote for B Hussein Obama you're a chauvinist pig. And if you vote for Hillary Clinton you're a racist.

18 posted on 05/19/2008 6:59:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: mthom
You are right. I notice that about Obama, when he speaks sometimes. He dismisses people. I remember the flap over his pancakes, “Can I finish my pancakes?”. If Obama wanted to eat his pancakes in peace, he should have stayed on the bus or in the hotel room, instead of venturing out in the public.
19 posted on 05/19/2008 6:59:36 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

Trust me, I’m no feminist and I found it offensive. It was calling her “sweetie” coupled with brushing off her question. Not once, but twice. Even when he apologized to her later he never answered her question. I realize he had no answer to her question but he tried to use his smooth talk to get around doing so. And, as usual, he succeeded.


20 posted on 05/19/2008 6:59:52 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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