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There’s Too Much at Stake for Conservatives to Shrug Like Atlas
North Star Writers Group ^ | May 19, 2008 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 05/19/2008 5:35:51 AM PDT by Dukes Travels

Conservatives don’t love John McCain, but unless they’re considering abandoning their cause with Atlas Shrugged proportions, there’s no way in hell they’ll vote for Barack Obama.

Sometimes, things have to get worse before they get better. And with that idea in mind, the conservative movement really is America’s crutch.

The most specific example is economics, as conservatives constantly preach lower taxes and greater individual freedom. One would think that the Bush tax cuts, which have yielded continued economic growth (yes, our economy is growing, despite the lies you keep hearing), and the burgeoning economy during the Reagan Administration would provide enough proof to, at the very least, convince people that maybe, just maybe, there’s something to be said for lower taxes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; boogaboogabooga; conservatism; conservativevote; elections; juanmccain; mccain; obama; paidshills; rinos; rinostampede; scaretactics; teamjuanshills
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL, funny tagline. But they’re wrong. McCain can’t win without conservatives. And this election, conservatives can’t win without McCain.


41 posted on 05/19/2008 6:44:07 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Crazieman

Thanks for articulating my reasons for staying home for the first time ever.

Either way we lose, big time! Both Obama and McCain will do great harm to the country, only difference being that one will do it with sweet rhetoric while the other one will grit his teeth and berate his (supposed) fellow conservatives (in the process).

I’m tired of the “pump and dump” routine that the RINOS have been doing to us every four years. Time for a new approach.

If conservatives ever get the courage to organize a meaningful third party effort to save this nation, I will come out of my self-imposed political slumber.

Until then, I will continue to plan to enjoy the few years that I feel the country has left.


42 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by Grateful One
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To: TAdams8591
Socialists do not advocate lower taxes and smaller government as McCain has.

1.) Whom, specifically, do you suppose will be paying for the health care McCain's beloved additional 30-to-40 million additional illegals are (inevitably) going to need?

2.) From where, specifically, do you suppose that money will logically be coming? Will the marvelous magical Money Fairy be providing, in this instance... or: will McCain ultimately need to tap some other source, instead?

43 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:30 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Dukes Travels
"May 19, 2008
There’s Too Much at Stake for Conservatives ...."

I seem to recall similar articles written on May 19, 2004, May 19, 2000, May 19, 1996, May 19, 1992 -- just about every election year. "Too Much at Stake!" "Hold Your Nose and Vote Republican!" And I believed them.

But, as Roberto Duran once said, "No más". I will go out and vote Republican (so the party can't blame the lack of turnout), but I will not vote for McCain.

44 posted on 05/19/2008 6:49:15 AM PDT by vincentfreeman
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To: Crazieman
I sacrificed the last ten years of my life and far, far more, for my love of the first amendment. So I don't take it lightly.

Under a Democratic administration, our first amendment rights are in far greater jeopardy. I oughta know after my experience under Clinton and Mayor Rendell.

I'll my chances with McCain rather than Obama thank you very much!

45 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:08 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Crazieman

I say send McCain home in November bitter and angry from his defeat at the hands of conservatives, the very conservatives he has sought to destory the last 10 years.


46 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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To: Dukes Travels

“The fact is that America is moving to the left. We haven’t reached European proportions yet, but our direction is clear, we’re accelerating and it’s time conservatives grasped it.”

I’ve predicted this right here on FreeRepublic numerous times over the past few years. Most recently:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2017269/posts?page=83#83

Shockley continues:
“Part of me is really interested to see what will happen if Obama becomes our next president. How much of his liberal agenda would he actually achieve, and how would the country react? I worry that things will get much worse, that we’ll lose much of our freedom, and the generally strong Christian presence in our country that I believe is among the primary reasons for our strength over the last few centuries will rapidly diminish.”

One watches crowds of 75,000 (as in Oregon on Sunday) with the trepidation that German Jews must have had, watching the Nazi rallies in Nurnberg in the 1930’s....

I’m not interested in seeing what’s going to happen, period - for exactly the reason in the previous paragraph.

- John


47 posted on 05/19/2008 6:52:18 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What do you think our chances for lower taxes of any kind will be under Obama?


48 posted on 05/19/2008 6:53:06 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Dukes Travels

I’ll wait to see who the bum picks as his running mate.


49 posted on 05/19/2008 6:54:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: TAdams8591

Do you even comprehend how we got into this situation?

The lesser of evil is still evil.

Screaming “But the other guy is worse!” IS HOW WE GOT HERE!

WE HAVE TO STOP IT NOW!

For the good of the country, STOP “BECAUSE THE OTHER GUY IS WORSE!”


50 posted on 05/19/2008 6:57:16 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: squarebarb

Right you are, voting for him would just further enable him and other RINO’s.

It’s third party for me.


51 posted on 05/19/2008 6:57:19 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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To: TAdams8591
McCain can’t win without conservatives.

If so, then he needs to do what every politician seeking the support of any given voting bloc routinely does, and meet their specifically vocalized needs to such an extent as to earn said support.

As the recent outpouring of raw, naked outrage on the NRCC web site makes both manifest and plain: insofar as the voting conservative base is concerned, he absolutely has not done so.

Responsibility for the adamant rejection of John McCain by the conservative voting bloc, therefore, rests ultimately with the unsatisfactory candidate, and he alone.

conservatives can’t win without McCain.

... and yet, we're increasingly resolved to giving it the old college try, nonetheless. My, my.

52 posted on 05/19/2008 6:58:43 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: onedoug

That will surely be all important in determining how hard I will push for McCain.


53 posted on 05/19/2008 6:59:43 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: DManA

You can say all you want. You’ll just be ignored.


54 posted on 05/19/2008 7:00:20 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: TAdams8591
What do you think our chances for lower taxes of any kind will be under Obama?

Attempting to "answer" a question with another question is a nakedly (and inherently) dishonest dodge. I'll give you another go at them:

1.) Whom, specifically, do you suppose will be paying for the health care McCain's beloved additional 30-to-40 million additional illegals are (inevitably) going to need?

2.) From where, specifically, do you suppose that money will logically be coming? Will the marvelous magical Money Fairy be providing, in this instance... or: will McCain ultimately need to tap some other source, instead?

55 posted on 05/19/2008 7:00:56 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh, your whining has made a permanent impression all year. Don’t worry, the list is named in your “honor”.


56 posted on 05/19/2008 7:01:21 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Redleg Duke

Same back atcha.


57 posted on 05/19/2008 7:01:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Few conservatives among us would claim the situation we find ourselves in is far, far from ideal.

But I will not concede victory to Obama.

58 posted on 05/19/2008 7:03:37 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Fishrrman; All
“The fact is that America is moving to the left. We haven’t reached European proportions yet, but our direction is clear, we’re accelerating and it’s time conservatives grasped it.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........................
Oh boy this is SOOOO TIRESOME, scare the conservatives scare the conservatives ..Look conservatives have always had to fight the left and the MSM and Hollywood and the Elite University profs (who educated BUSH et al Ivy League insiders)..stop this scare mongering. Enough already.
TO be a CONSERVATIVE is to have the GUTS to see the truth
and not be weak about what we believe!!
The results of The lesser of two evils has lead us to a McCain as our GOP leader.. BE strong Conservatives we will
stand as independent men and women, relying on OUR GOD and
the Constitution as our bedrock. BE STRONG
59 posted on 05/19/2008 7:05:37 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Redleg Duke

I’m starting a list of people in preperation for President McCain. I’m calling it the “I told you so” list.


60 posted on 05/19/2008 7:06:02 AM PDT by DManA
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