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Read the whole thing...it is daunting. This complements Luttwaks' piece in the NYT...http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.htm l?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

It is stranger than fiction that a candidate so antithetical in his background and associations to the culture and traditions and governmental principles of the US should ever have been presented for candidacy. Both parties have been ignorant of the impact of Manchurian candidate on our country, and, this candidacy only raises the risk ante exponentially.

1 posted on 05/18/2008 5:08:36 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: givemELL

He’s a Mac Daddy according too this nut !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU


2 posted on 05/18/2008 5:11:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: givemELL

No kidding!

Only in America. Land of the Idiots, Home of the politically correct.


3 posted on 05/18/2008 5:15:11 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: givemELL
According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.

Which leaves me a bit perplexed....why does he get so much support from the muslim community when they usually attack someone like this who's proclaimed to be Christian. Maybe Obama's already winked at the Immam to let him know he doesn't take all that Jesus stuff tooooo seriously.

4 posted on 05/18/2008 5:17:04 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: givemELL

Wouldn’t Obama’s nomination put the lie to to the charge that America is the Great Satan if a Moslem can become a popular candidate for the presidency? I’m just saying.


5 posted on 05/18/2008 5:19:16 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: givemELL
Fascinating speculation.

If it's true that conservatives are liberals who've been mugged, then imagine President Obama getting a major punking from Osama, himself.

9 posted on 05/18/2008 5:22:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: givemELL

Obama is NOT apostate....

He is a SLEEPER !!

THAT is why he gets the “pass” from Islamic leaders...

Look no further...


10 posted on 05/18/2008 5:22:40 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: givemELL

If he is not a Muslim, then about one billion people have a religious obligation to kill him. How is that going to bring about peace in the middle east?


13 posted on 05/18/2008 5:27:19 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: givemELL

If this is the case, wouldn’t he be a big target for a fatwah? (Don’t know if that’s the correct spelling). In our vernacular, a “hit”?

Just wondering.


14 posted on 05/18/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: givemELL
So why is Obama being given a pass? Does one have to be both born a Muslim and leave and then be elected president of the U.S. to be a murtad fitri?

Al Qaeda is "waiting until he's taken the oath of office to begin branding him a traitor to the faith of his fathers."

"So it's not hard to imagine bin Laden praying that Obama wins this November."

Well, at least the author is the first (that I know of) that actually addresses the "no fatwa for Obama, the apostate of the worst kind."

That last sentence of the article..

I can see it now. Headline:

McCain poses as female Islamic expert?
McCain's CSMonitor article attacks me: Obama
Attacks obviously racial, demands UN investigation.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 5:28:42 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: givemELL

This is a quote from his book, “Audacity of Hope”:

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

In other words, to Hell with Israel and the western world.


23 posted on 05/18/2008 5:48:51 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: givemELL

Sky is blue
water is wet
Americans are stupid
sun rises in east
Baraq Husyan ibn Mahomet is an apostate


27 posted on 05/18/2008 6:01:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: givemELL

Obama is simply practicing the islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur’an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace, and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates. The word literally means to protect or guard against and conveys the principle that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventative measure to protect themselves and Islam, especially in life or liberty threatening circumstances. It is important that the Muslim does not mean it in his heart, however. The concept of Al-Takeyya is based on the following verse in the Qu’ran:

Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers; if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah, except by way of prevention that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you to remember Himself for the final goal is to Allah. Surah 3:28

Further, the concept of Al Takeyya permits behavior of a Muslim that is contrary to his faith if pretending to befriend infidels, and may:

Consume alcohol
Skip prayers
Skip fasting during the month of Ramadan
Renounce his belief in Allah
Pray to another diety in place of Allah
Lie under oath

The Hadith
One of Mohammed’s daughters (Umm Kalthoum) stated that she never heard him condone or promote lying except under three specific situations:

To reconcile the people of Islam;
In times of war against the infidels;
To a spouse to keep harmony within a family.

Good Sources:

http://islamcommentaries.com/index.htm

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml


31 posted on 05/18/2008 6:08:51 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: givemELL
Something tells me that Obama will not likely survive the fatwa against him, likely already issued in secret.

Remember if you will, Obama was assigned a secret service security detail in Feb. of 2007. long before any other candidate was.Obama realizes that there are a whole bunch of Somalis, Kenyans ( Swahili) and assorted Shiites who would love to kidnap him, or off him on the spot.

Obama sure would be a hell of a president ( Sarc. off.).

37 posted on 05/18/2008 6:59:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: givemELL
It's about time someone noticed this. It doesn't matter if Obama never considered himself a practicing Muslim and always considered himself a Christian in parts of the world.
39 posted on 05/18/2008 7:18:23 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: givemELL
I've had my tagline for quite some time but few have noticed.
40 posted on 05/18/2008 7:25:47 PM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: givemELL

“Read the whole thing...it is daunting”

Very! Thank you for posting this article.


42 posted on 05/18/2008 8:39:56 PM PDT by angelsonmyside
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BTTT


49 posted on 05/19/2008 1:16:05 PM PDT by 300magnum (God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. D.Webster)
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To: givemELL

Seems I read that Obambi’s Christian baptismal records are not to be found. That along with a rumour that there are several muslims in his Black Liberation church should be looked into I would think.


50 posted on 05/19/2008 1:49:27 PM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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