Posted on 05/17/2008 11:12:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58
People gaze in disbelief at the cultural landscape — all the divorce, cohabitation, promiscuity, sexually transmitted disease, single moms, ill-mannered children, failing public schools, substance abuse, domestic violence, abortions, pornography and incivility — and can't fathom how America fell this far this fast.
No one event triggered this devolution, but it undeniably was pushed along many times by the moral relativism of the last 50 years, when most of society's widely accepted norms were undermined by the quicksand of nonjudgmentalism; when the concepts of right and wrong, good and bad, were abolished in favor of differences that were to be respected if not celebrated, and codified when necessary to surmount widespread public opposition.
Paradoxically, people and institutions whose beliefs do not permit them to tolerate the most abhorrent differences were judged to be evil. Through rigid enforcement of increasingly fascist speech and thought codes, relativists turned America into a nation of lip-biters who with their silence condoned as normal behaviors and beliefs that are irrefutably unnatural and inherently immoral.
At every step of this long downward cultural march were men and women in black robes, activist judges eager to take out another of society's underpinnings under the guise of some spurious, high-sounding goal. And at every step, relativists declared that the latest judicial fiat freeing another genie of man's worst impulses would, inexplicably, make society stronger, fairer, safer, better.
Thursday's California Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage followed the script, but was at best redundant — its Massachusetts counterpart broke this ground four years ago with the identical one-vote margin — and was more symbolic than significant. Homosexuals already enjoy all of the rights and benefits of traditional marriage under California law, which treats homosexuality and heterosexuality as functional equivalents.
No, the ruling merely answered homosexuals' purely emotional plea for cultural acceptance by giving civil unions their proper label — "marriage" — the will of Californians, as democratically expressed twice, and the dark societal consequences be damned. Far from being a seminal ruling, the decision merely inched the homosexual agenda ahead and drove yet another nail in the culture's coffin.
With this decision going down in California, I worry about my own state. As far as living in California, I wouldn’t touch that state with a ten foot pole. If same sex marriages come to my state, I would contemplate moving out, or walk on ten foot stilts!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
It is not good when the nation’s founding document precludes “prohibiting the free exercise therof.”
Hairshirts fell out of fashion long ago.
More specifically, ignorance of the Constitution and its history is epidemic. Widespread constitutional ignorance is evidenced by the following links.
http://tinyurl.com/npt6tThe consequence of widespread constitutional ignorance is that the people are impotent to stop renegade, pagan-minded judges from exposing families to all kinds of perversions and corrupting influences.
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
But despite today's liberal perversions of our 1st A. freedoms, Thomas Jefferson had noted that it was never the intention of the Founders for free speech, press, etc., not to be regulated in some way. The truth of the matter is that the Founding States had reserved the power to regulate our 1st A. freedoms for themselves regardless that they prohibited the federal government from doing so. See for yourself.
"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed; and thus also they guarded against all abridgement by the US. of the freedom of religious opinions and exercises, & retained to themselves the right of protecting the same, as this state, by a law passed on the general demand of it’s citizens, had already protected them, from all human restraint or interference: ..." --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. http://tinyurl.com/oozooAs a side note, consider that post Civil War constitutional lawmakers came to grips with the problem that some states had been abusing their 10th A. protected powers and made the 14th A., the honest interpretation of this amendment limiting such powers.
Getting back to state powers to protect family values from corrupting influences, the question to ask concerning the unwanted influence of today's corrupt judges is what happened to the 10th A. protected powers of the states to regulate such things as abortion, pornography, gay marriage, etc.? Indeed, when was the last time that you heard anything about the 10th Amendment?
The key to understanding the mysterious disapperance of the 10th A. is to consider that constitutional flunky FDR foolishly encouraged the USSC to politically ignore the 10th Amendment. He did so so that the USSC could give the green light his constitutionally unauthorized New Deal Programs.
But what's worse is that corrupt justices then began using FDR's license to ignore the 10th A. and traditional family values to advance their special-interest agendas.
This post (<-click), while addressing taxes, helps to explain how 10th A. protected state powers were wrongly politically repealed by the USSC when FDR established his constitutionally unauthorized New Deal programs.
And this post (<-click) exposes how corrupt justices then began using FDR's politically correct license to ignore the 10th A. to unlawfully stifle traditional family values, including the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade. Note that the post first references two non-abortion cases in order to show Roe v. Wade in a different, troubling perspective.
Again, regardless that Founder's reserved for the states the power to decide limits on our 1st A. freedoms to protect family values, FDR's 10th A.-ignoring establishment of federal spending programs set off a chain-reaction of case decisions by special-interest, pagan-minded judges which have tragically eroded traditional family values.
The bottom line is that the people need to wise up to the very serious problem of wide-spread corruption in the federal and state governments, particularly where the 10th A. protected powers of the states are being ignored. The people need get in the faces of judges who are not upholding their oaths to defend the will of the majority as reflected by state and federal laws and constitutions, demanding that they resign from their jobs.
The signatures being collected from Californians to decide on a one-man, one-woman marriage amendment to their constitution in November, for example, is definitely a good idea.
“We have to admit that both those on the right and those on the left look to the government to legislate morality.....Is government the answer?”
Actually, all anyone is attempting to legislate is “behavior”. To some extent government has to be a small part of the answer. However, obviously it is not the full answer. The mindset of people has to change, and that is outside of government.
“There won’t be a revolution because first they will take away the guns.”
Which will be the very act that will guarantee a revolution.
“Actually, it started long before Monica.”
That’s why I said it was the final nail in the coffin.
suffering for your lord is good..
So when in the two millennia that have passed since this was written was such NOT the case? (I myself am guilty of much of same, for all I struggle against it...)
“There won’t be a revolution because first they will take away the guns.”
Which will be the very act that will guarantee a revolution.
No because by that time we will be in the same position as the no smoking laws. Slowly they creep until Bamb! They start with passing small laws that slowly take away all you have. We are a bunch of sheep being hypmotized slowly but surely.
I doubt the modern divorce rate can even begin to approach the rate of change wrought by just the maternal death rate alone.
Looks like you exaggerate a little. I think a half dozen wives would be unusual.
George Washington had only one wife, though no children. Martha had 4 children by her first husband. She outlived both her husbands. Thomas Jefferson only had one wife, though he may have had other relationships. John and Abigail Adams had 6 born children (a seventh was stillborn). John didn’t remarry, though Abigail died first; looks like he was about 53 when she died.
The Lincolns had four children. Ulysses S. Grant had four children. His wife outlived him. When Andrew Jackson’s wife died, he did not remarry. They had no natural children.
But. the issue is not how many spouses someone has, but the tendency to dump a spouse and find a new one through boredom, or another reason besides death.
If someone assaults his/her spouse, or is unfaithful, that should be grounds for divorce. But now we have “no fault divorce” and “irreconciable differences.”
If Republicans want to restore morality, there should be less divorce among their members and no adultery or homosexual acts.
Most of the citizens of America do not comprehend what is happening to their country. “
The best answer I can find is:
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (King James Version)
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
No, we would have had a revolution before then.”
I don’t believe a revolution could get off the ground anymore.
There would have to be some organization and you can bet your life that someone(trusted) would spill the beans and then you will either be disarmed and in prison or dead.
If same sex marriages come to my state, I would contemplate moving out, or walk on ten foot stilts!”
What state is your state?
As in uttering words like "Queer", "Fag" etc etc
“I blame it on the hippie, anti-war movement of the 1960’s. Remember the book “I’m OK, You’re OK?” That was the ultimate bible of moral relativism.”
I agree with you up to a point, but the work of Alfred Kinsey and the development of the birth control pill both preceded the hippies. Actually, the roaring 20s were one of the earlier signs that we were on the precipice of our downward moral spiral. All of it adds up to where we are now.
Maybe it’s too late to turn back, but we still need to act. I want to emerge from this with a clean conscience, if nothing else. Donate, if you can, to the Capitol Resource Center in Sacramento. (I am not from California, but it’s an important state, so I try to follow trends there.) Their street address is:
Capitol Resource Family Impact
660 J Street, Suite 250
Sacramento, CA 95814
Their web address is http://www.capitolresource.org/
They work on behalf of traditional families.
Here is more of their email:
The court’s decision cannot be appealed to the United States Supreme Court so we must overturn our state’s judicial activism at the ballot box. This November, we have the chance to reclaim our freedom and our power. In light of the California Supreme Court’s outrageous decision, it is essential that we place the traditional definition of marriage in our constitution.
It is vital that you join the Protect Marriage coalition and work to pass the marriage amendment initiative on the November ballot.
Here is how you can help:
1. Educate. Email all of your friends, tell church members, and make everyone you know aware of this outrageous court decision. Many people might not understand the ramifications of this decision. In 30 days, homosexuals will be legally married in this state. But citizens should not feel helpless-we have a ballot initiative to overturn the court’s decision.
2. Stay informed. Encourage everyone you know to join our email list so we can keep them up to date on the latest news regarding the family movement and the Protect Marriage campaign.
3. Donate. Volunteering for the campaign is important, but campaigns are also extremely expensive with all the advertising, printing and other expenses it takes to spread our message. But isn’t a $100 donation worth protecting marriage for our children, grandchildren and beyond? Isn’t a $50 donation worth overturning SB 777 to protect the innocence of our children in schools? Although it may be expensive, the outcome is priceless and necessary.
The homosexual campaign against Protect Marriage is already raising money to defeat our initiative. We estimate we will be outspent 10-1.
Our campaign will be a coalition of moms, dads, grandparents and others who want to preserve our values.
The website for Americans for Divorce Reform is at http://patriot.net/~crouch/adr/index.html .
“We have to admit that both those on the right and those on the left look to the government to legislate morality.
Look at anti-gay marriage laws.
That isn’t from the left, it is from the right.
Is government the answer?”
Government may not be the answer, but we have to fight when something like this comes along. Politically correct people will roll over us if we don’t fight fire with fire.
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