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California's Gift to McCain? ( Homosexual "marriage" )
weekly standard ^ | 05/26/2008, Volume 013, Issue 35 | John McCormack

Posted on 05/17/2008 6:28:56 AM PDT by kellynla

Eight years ago, 4,618,673 California voters--61 percent of those casting ballots--approved an initiative that stated: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." Last Thursday, four of the seven justices of the California supreme court struck down that law, ruling that it violates the "fundamental constitutional right to form a family relationship."

California chief justice Ronald George, writing for the majority, declared that "an individual's sexual orientation--like a person's race or gender--does not constitute a legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights" and therefore "the California Constitution properly must be interpreted to guarantee this basic civil right to all Californians, whether gay or heterosexual, and to same-sex couples as well as to opposite-sex couples."

"It looks like a fairly conventional liberal judicial activist decision," says Princeton professor of jurisprudence Robert P. George. "These guys had the votes, and they rammed it through. They don't regard the will of the people of California as worthy of their particular concern."

Like the Massachusetts supreme court, which redefined marriage contrary to the will of the people in 2004, the California court has thrust the issue of same-sex marriage upon the nation in the midst of a presidential race. Within hours of the decision, Barack Obama's campaign issued a statement saying that the candidate

respects the decision of the California Supreme Court, and continues to believe that states should make their own decisions when it comes to the issue of marriage.

Then the McCain camp fired back:

John McCain supports the right of the people of California to recognize marriage as a unique institution sanctioning the union between a man and a woman, just as he did in his home state of Arizona. John McCain doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.

By supporting the court's decision, Obama exposed a number of vulnerabilities. McCain might ask, What exactly would preclude the U.S. Supreme Court, refreshed with a couple of Obama appointees, from declaring same-sex marriage a constitutional right in all 50 states? And if laws against same-sex marriage are just like laws against interracial marriage, as the California court declared, then what would stop the government from treating those who oppose same-sex marriage like racists?

Indeed, says Professor George, the next logical step will be to use "antidiscrimination laws as weapons" primarily against religious institutions and individuals who refuse to recognize same-sex marriage. In the eyes of the law, George says, they'll be "treated as bigots." For example, after the Massachusetts same-sex marriage decision in 2004, Catholic Charities shut down its adoption services rather than comply with a government order to place children with same-sex couples.

In California, conflicts between religious liberty and gay rights have already reached the courts. In a case to be heard May 28 by the California supreme court, two Christian doctors are being sued for refusing to artificially inseminate a lesbian, and last summer four firefighters sued the city of San Diego on sexual harassment grounds after they were required to participate in a gay pride parade over their objections. How would California deal with doctors who refused to treat an African American? Revoke their licenses. How would San Diego treat firefighters who objected to marching in a Martin Luther King Jr. parade? Fire them.

A voter initiative on marriage in California--to amend the state constitution with wording identical to the 2000 measure--appears to have enough signatures to make it onto this November's ballot. Such an amendment would trump last week's decision. Prior to the ruling, the state of California already provided virtually the same tangible benefits and legal rights for same-sex domestic partners as for husbands and wives, so the debate in California may focus on the threat that the court's decision poses to religious liberty.

A strong enough voter backlash in California has a chance of putting the state's electoral votes in play: A Rasmussen poll in April showed McCain trailing Obama by 7 percentage points. The issue could also bolster McCain's support in Florida--the only other state with a marriage amendment on the ballot this year--where a RealClearPolitics average of polls shows McCain leading Obama by nine points.

There's no guarantee, however, that either of these initiatives will pass or necessarily have a spillover effect in McCain's favor. Though 27 states have passed marriage amendments to their state constitutions, 2006 saw the first defeat by the voters of such an amendment--in McCain's home state of Arizona. That same year, Colorado gay rights activist Tim Gill gave $15 million in political donations and organized activists to donate millions more, mostly to defeat state legislators who oppose same-sex marriage. Now, same-sex marriage proponents are planning to flood California with campaign cash. Brian Brown, executive director of the National Organization for Marriage, the fledgling organization leading the fight for this fall's marriage amendment in California, estimates that their campaign will need at least $10 million to succeed in a state with some of the most expensive media markets in the country.

Though McCain caught flak from social conservatives in 2004 for opposing a federal amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman, Brown says that McCain's speaking out in favor of the California initiative and articulating his judicial philosophy in this context would resonate with voters.

But it will be up to McCain himself to draw the contrast between his positions and Obama's. The media are content to say that the candidates "are pretty much in agreement" on marriage, as the New York Times reported, since both favor legal protections for same-sex couples and oppose same-sex marriage as well as the federal marriage amendment.

McCain opposed the federal amendment partly because the federal Defense of Marriage Act--which McCain supports and Obama opposes--already defines marriage as between a man and a woman; it also says that a state is not required to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.

In light of the California court's ruling, McCain may be more open to supporting a federal amendment, which would prevent either state or federal courts from redefining marriage, though it's unclear whether he's considered such a move to forestall judicial activism. What's certain is that the ballot initiative this November in California--where one out of every eight U.S. citizens lives--will keep this issue alive whether the candidates like it or not.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2008; homosexual; homosexualagenda; issues; marriage; mccain; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 05/17/2008 6:28:56 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Where I disagree with John McCan - is that marriage is too important a matter to be left to the states and liberals. It must be enshrined in the U.S Constitution.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 05/17/2008 6:34:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Where I disagree with John McCan - is that marriage is too important a matter to be left to the states and liberals. It must be enshrined in the U.S Constitution.

It is sad that our country has gotten to that point though. What next, courts gonna tell us 1+1=3.

3 posted on 05/17/2008 6:41:03 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: kellynla

Do you think that November’s ballot initiative will win with 60%, like in 2000, or has the state changed a lot in 8 years?


4 posted on 05/17/2008 6:42:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kellynla
“are pretty much in agreement” on marriage, as the New York Times reported, since both favor legal protections for same-sex couples and oppose same-sex marriage as well as the federal marriage amendment.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...................
The facts are : vote for lesser of two evils and we get what we got in California with the good GOP governor supporting the Homosexual agenda..
those supporting Mccain this is the result of voting in
a Rino..you will get stabbed in the back every time.
5 posted on 05/17/2008 6:43:34 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Always Right

General Thought: “Immorality breeds chaos”....and that’s exactly where we are...Homosexual marriage, killing babies, creating legal loopholes...


6 posted on 05/17/2008 6:43:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t even know if we have enough names to qualify for the ballot?
I’ve been looking but haven’t been able to find out.

To answer your question, if it makes the ballot, I predict it will pass. I “think” you only need 51% to win passage; but don’t hold me to that.

“has the state changed a lot in 8 years?”

Truth be known, I believe the STATE has become more outraged by this issue than in 2000.


7 posted on 05/17/2008 6:51:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
I heard a ballot initiative sponsor on the radio, and he said they had something like 2X the names they needed. He said the homogoons are trying to defeat the initiative by challenging the signatures, but that they have no chance. They have way more names than they need. The initiative is going to be voted upon, he was confident of that. The outcome, we can only hope.
8 posted on 05/17/2008 7:02:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: goldstategop
It must be enshrined in the U.S Constitution.

As if courts respect that anymore.

9 posted on 05/17/2008 7:04:37 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Travis McGee

“or has the state changed a lot in 8 years?”

Lots more Latinos, and not just illegals.

In the case of same-sex, the latin vote would actually help.


10 posted on 05/17/2008 7:06:52 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: kellynla

California is a perfect example of how this country is going down hill fast. When the people are over ruled by the black robes, it’s time for the people to take over the states again. It was done once.....it can be done again.


11 posted on 05/17/2008 7:08:24 AM PDT by RC2
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To: kellynla
The media are content to say that the candidates "are pretty much in agreement"

Of course the "Media" (i.e. the Democrat Propaganda Machine) will promote Obama and do its best to defeat McCain. That's goes without saying.

The election of McCain to the Presidency depends to a great extent on the Republicans' effectiveness in informing the electorate of the truth and overriding the propaganda of the Democrat Propaganda Machine--and that's a scary thought considering the Republicans' amazing prestidigitation in plucking defeat from the esophagus of victory.

12 posted on 05/17/2008 7:08:57 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: RC2
Remember when California--with its enormous economy and breathtaking resources--appeared to be the bright, golden future of the world? Now it teters on the brink of bankruptcy; it can't affort to repair its potholed roads; instead of the envy of the world, it's the laughing stock!

Remember when Detroit was a bright, bustling, prosperous big city, full of promise and excitement? Now it's a Third World Hellhole!

This is the future of the United States, if the American people are foolish enough to allow the Left to have its way.

If they can, Leftists--and the Democrat Party is their Political Machine, the "Mainstream Newsmedia" their Propaganda Machine--will damn the entire United States (thank you, Jeremiah!) to becoming a Third World Laughing Stock Hellhole!

13 posted on 05/17/2008 7:16:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Sacajaweau

Post-modernism:

Killing in-womb babies is good. Killing snail darter is bad.

Sticking your penis in a male anus is normal and psychological healthy. Traditional nuclear family is bad.

Lawyers in black robes overruling the will of the people is good. Democracy is bad.

Ruth Buzzi Ginsbarf will be delighted when men can legally have “consensual” sex with 12 year old boys once Obama appoints three Trotskyite ACLU, pro-NAMBLA lawyers like herself to the SC.

Jesus, please come back and save us!


14 posted on 05/17/2008 7:31:55 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t think it will pass this year. That is my prediction. The activists will say it is a mean ballot measure prohibiting the enforcement of a decision already ok’ed by the courts. The sheeple will agree.


15 posted on 05/17/2008 8:10:24 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: kellynla

>A strong enough voter backlash in California has a chance of putting the state’s electoral votes in play:

Bawahahaha. Okay.


16 posted on 05/17/2008 8:34:46 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: kellynla
It's only a gift for McCain if he decides to emphasize the issue, which he apparently isn't going to do.

It should be a gift that stops the bleeding and helps Republicans regain Congressional seats in the South but it appears that Republican party, including beltway conservatives, are too ignorant to realize that social issues are the keep to maintaining and winning back seats in places like Louisiana and Mississippi.

17 posted on 05/17/2008 8:55:23 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: kellynla

In an ordinary election, this would be a gift from God Almighty to the Republicans.

I expect McCain to squander it and continue his jihad against conservatives, lest he be branded by his friends in the Democrat media as divisive.

We have all of these wedges (e.g. working class jobs versus enviro-loons) and McCain is refusing the use them. This sucks.


18 posted on 05/17/2008 9:01:13 AM PDT by JHBowden
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To: kellynla

The GOP judges who ruled in this case might be Trojan Horses, angering Republican voters into VOTINGGGGGG when this travisty is put on the NOVEMBER BALLOT!!!!!!!


19 posted on 05/17/2008 9:05:51 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Always Right

“What next, courts gonna tell us 1+1=3.”

YES!!!!! And when they do, libs will call you “ANTI-3”


20 posted on 05/17/2008 11:21:18 AM PDT by moopie1
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