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US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' ["I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters......]
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Posted on 05/16/2008 8:41:40 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

US soldier refuses to serve in 'illegal Iraq war' May 16 10:49 AM US/Eastern Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American US military recruiters love.

"I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in school," the now 24-year-old told AFP.

"I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters. They started phoning me when I was in 10th grade," or around 16 years old, he added.

Chiroux joined the US army straight out of high school nearly six years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.

He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and was due to be deployed next month in Iraq.

On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.

"I stand before you today with the strength and clarity and resolve to declare to the military, my government and the world that this soldier will not be deploying to Iraq," Chiroux said in the sun-filled rotunda of a congressional building in Washington.

"My decision is based on my desire to no longer continue violating my core values to support an illegal and unconstitutional occupation... I refuse to participate in the Iraq occupation," he said, as a dozen veterans of the five-year-old Iraq war looked on.

Minutes earlier, Chiroux had cried openly as he listened to former comrades-in-arms testify before members of Congress about the failings of the Iraq war.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Sub-Driver
Ex-Marine Jason Lemieux told how a senior officer had altered a report he had written because it slammed US troops of using excessive force, firing off thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and hundreds of grenades in the face of a feeble four rounds of enemy fire.

Unfortunately that is very true. It constantly amazed me how Soldiers would respond with massive amounts of blind fire to a single shot from an unknown spot (usually in the next block over from them anyway). It was even an issue in my Company. I'm proud to say that my Soldiers only fired when they had actual targets to hit. They were very disciplined in their applications of deadly force.

61 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:36 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (From "hooah!" to "meh..." in only three weeks' time...)
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To: Chi-townChief

someone call a cop!!!!


62 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:47 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Contitutions reset button)
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To: ASA Vet
After he's served his time, give him his dishonorable discharge, throw his butt out of the Army, and bill him for any bonuses he might have received.

And give him a mandatory sex change operation.

63 posted on 05/16/2008 9:25:54 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Sub-Driver

TS. YOU don’t get to decide what’s legal and what isn’t. Toss his ass in the can. Or better yet, send him out on point. Permanently.


64 posted on 05/16/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Sub-Driver

So this coward doesn’t want to go. I’ll gladly take his place; although the Marines (wouldn’t be in any other branch) would have to do some SERIOUS waiving of age limits.

Call me in his place.


65 posted on 05/16/2008 9:28:01 AM PDT by NTHockey
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To: Chi-townChief
I was....but I guess thats what all red blooded, patriotic Americans with a desire to serve are:o) Guilty as charged!! 21 years after the fact, Master Sergeant of Marines!!
66 posted on 05/16/2008 9:30:34 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: MissouriConservative

Um...nice hair.


67 posted on 05/16/2008 9:31:02 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wish they would go back to doing what the both the North and the South did durng similar cases of cowardice during the Civil War - Shoot the poor, dumb bastard.


68 posted on 05/16/2008 9:34:06 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: tobyhill
That can happen if one has a needed skill and time remaining on one's military obligation. But he needs to remember that no one forced him to enlist and that he was told of the obligation period when he enlisted.

Based on his comments, I would like to see evidence of the recall warning letter before I will believe him. I doubt that the Army needs photographers that badly.

69 posted on 05/16/2008 9:37:27 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Sub-Driver
Facebooks and blogs= aid and comfort.
DUH!
70 posted on 05/16/2008 9:38:01 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (Hip, Happy, Loving, Kind, Friendly, Prolife Anti-Hollywood Activist)
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To: TheGunny
Ok...I am a former ROTC cadet who got put out on a medical (Epilepsy) and this punk..he's got the nerve to not only desert, but flaunt it on the capital steps? Uh, look, I have friends who are in, some don't want to go back, but hey, they've been there, and if the orders came, they'd go. Nature of the job and what you expected when you signed and put up your right hand.

So, while this arse whines on my dime, I can't serve because of a loose circuit breaker in my head. Ticks me off to hear stuff like this. I'd take a desk job in CONUS for the duration if that's all I could get.

71 posted on 05/16/2008 9:38:33 AM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: tobyhill
This means he reenlisted during the time Iraq War was going on. He should have no complaints.

Absolutely, that is precisely what I was thinking. Unless - he signed a 6-year contract, and has been stop-lossed. But that is very unlikely. I also don't think it's normal to go through IET and four duty stations in less than six years. I will be finishing up my second duty station at that point in my career (2011/2012).

72 posted on 05/16/2008 9:39:07 AM PDT by tlj18 (Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President!)
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To: mass55th; All

Any idea what this a$$hat’s MOS is/was??? Sure as heck ain’t grunts or probably any other combat arms MOS.


73 posted on 05/16/2008 9:40:14 AM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Great minds discuss ideas, medium minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.)
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To: mpackard

From my time in the service so many years ago, an obilgation for service is 6 years. The time obligated is often broken up by active duty and inactive reserve, etc.....For the Army it was 2/4, Navy and Air Force 4/2.......It is also conceivable that the the 6 year obligation can be all active if conditions warrant....


74 posted on 05/16/2008 9:43:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ASA Vet

“After he’s served his time, give him his dishonorable discharge, throw his butt out of the Army, and bill him for any bonuses he might have received.’

This is shades of John “Jenjis Khan” Kerry and the Winter Soldiers all over again. We know most of them - indeed, Kerry himself - were phonies. Given this, I wonder if the so-called MSM vetted any of these clowns to see if they really served. I am suspicious...


75 posted on 05/16/2008 9:43:43 AM PDT by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

They were after me at 16, 32 years ago, to apply for the academy. My younger brother went to USAFA instead. I always wondered what would have been different...


76 posted on 05/16/2008 9:45:12 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Sub-Driver
Put him in a pink dress and t-shirt and he can stand with all the fat old hags of Code Pink. Good riddance, worm. -mks
77 posted on 05/16/2008 9:48:15 AM PDT by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
"Gee....the Army started calling ME in the 10th grade too.....19 years ago. Middle class....top 10% of my class..... Was I filet mignon? Recruiter wanted me to go into linguistics (more recruitment points??)......I went infantry.....pissed him off."

Wanna know how I pissed off my army recruiter???? I joined the Marines!

78 posted on 05/16/2008 9:49:53 AM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Great minds discuss ideas, medium minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.)
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To: TheGunny

I first thought some woodland creature had decided to take a nap on his dome.


79 posted on 05/16/2008 9:55:27 AM PDT by MissouriConservative (When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles.)
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Abandoning Iraq would likely result in many more deaths than "occupying" Iraq.

Under Truman US troops were pulled out of S. Korea in 1949. Under Truman troops were sent back to Korea in 1950.

30,000 Americans died in Korea in 2 1/2 years because we were dumb enough to abandon S. Korea in 1949, when it was still weak and unstable.

80 posted on 05/16/2008 9:59:25 AM PDT by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years, because Truman first withdrew troops from Korea in 1949.)
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