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U.S. House defeats $162.5 bln in new war funds (By a vote of 149-141....)
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Posted on 05/15/2008 12:54:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

U.S. House defeats $162.5 bln in new war funds Thu May 15, 2008 3:42pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday defeated legislation that would have funded the war in Iraq for another year, in a surprise move that the Senate could overturn.

By a vote of 149-141, the Democrat-controlled House rejected a measure that would have given the Pentagon $162.5 billion to keep the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan running through next summer, slightly below President George W. Bush's request.

A large group of anti-war House Democrats voted against the funds. That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting "present," meaning neither "yes" nor "no," killed the measure for now.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; defensespending; pelosi; reid
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Everyone Settle Down.

The GOP voted present because there were clauses in the bill that would micro manage deployment schedules in such a way as to prevent the military from continuing the march to victory. They knew that this choice would force the Senate to address the issue in a “clean” bill which will be voted on next week, and the Emmanuel conservative Dems will support it with the GOP — administering perhaps the ultimate embarrassment to Pelosi when a bill gets through the House with a majority of Democrats opposed.


21 posted on 05/15/2008 1:12:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Sub-Driver
HELLO PEOPLE!!!

THE LAST TIME I SAW THIS BILL THERE WAS A TIMELINE FOR WITHDRAWAL BUILT INTO IT!!!!!

If that timeline was still in the bill then that would be the reason the Republicans voted present.

22 posted on 05/15/2008 1:12:41 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: okie01

12 didn’t vote, and I *think* there is a vacant seat somewhere. Either that or the tally is incorrect.


23 posted on 05/15/2008 1:12:41 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a deceptive article. The vote for an amendment to the bill.

Apparently, there is a Senate amendment with additional 3 House amendments. Each House amendment was voted on separately. H-Amendment 1 failed [reported in the Reuters article], 2 and 3 passed.

The House website does not give enough information to determine the contents of the amendments [that I could find].

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR02642:@@@L&summ2=m&;


24 posted on 05/15/2008 1:12:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Fox_Mulder77

You got it exactly right.


25 posted on 05/15/2008 1:13:49 PM PDT by moose2004
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To: Sub-Driver
"That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting "present," "

Get a rope... we got ourselves some serious house cleaning to do.

26 posted on 05/15/2008 1:14:08 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Sub-Driver

This is the Chicken Liver House GOP members punting it over to the Senate rather than putting their initials by it.


27 posted on 05/15/2008 1:14:50 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Sub-Driver

Here is what we should hear on national TV in prime time (but won’t):

GW: “Ladies and Gentlemen. I come to you tonight to announce that beginning immediately, we will begin withdrawing 100% of our forces from Iraq and Afghanistan. Liberals in congress have expressed their desire to throw away the lives of our brave men and women who have fought for right and justice against the throws of Islamic Terrorism.

By refusing to fund the continued battle against terrorism, these politicians are putting politics above national security, partisan issues over moral issues, and ve demonstrated that they really do not care about the future security of the United States.

But I wish at this time to express my concerns that without a complete victory in the war against terrorism, we are doomed to see even more grievious attacks not only in the USA, but around the world by the newly emboldened terrorists. So when the death toll rises due to the murderous cowards of Mohammed and Allah, please remember my words.”


28 posted on 05/15/2008 1:16:05 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: moose2004

Of course he has it right. The DNC operatives here on FR are paid to grab at any opportunity to suppress the GOP vote this year.

This is all orchestrated and does not differ from 2000 and 2004 (nor 2006, actually, though that was a perfect storm of corruption scandals) in what we saw here.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 1:16:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: navyguy

Weak-kneed sissies, is what we call them. Check my tag line. I will never give in to evil, no one should.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 1:17:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Owen

The vote against it. Voting present is a cheap escape.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 1:17:49 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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Judging the responses on this thread I’d say the GOP is in huge trouble. Even when they do the right thing it seems like they haven’t. FR is a hornets nest right now!! LOLOL!!!


32 posted on 05/15/2008 1:18:13 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Sub-Driver
My guess is this was some sort of parliamentary move to save the bill for improvements or avoid attachments by the Dem's. There had to be something up...
33 posted on 05/15/2008 1:18:30 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. No one else.)
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To: caseinpoint
Yep. And if Republicans are smart, they will make this a campaign issue.

Oh sure Einstein that will work...sheesh do you not read?
That, coupled with 132 Republicans voting “present,” meaning neither “yes” nor “no,”

34 posted on 05/15/2008 1:19:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Sub-Driver; navyguy; TommyDale; WesternPacific; rocksblues; samtheman; Obadiah; ZULU; workerbee
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! This bill contained a date for withdrawal! Bush has himself threatened to veto the bill! The 132 Republicans did not wrong by refusing their "yea". Unlike the previous bills however the Democrat anti-war moonbats grew a little spine and voted NO for the whole bill, instead of passing it with the date for withdrawal, as they did usually!!!
35 posted on 05/15/2008 1:20:04 PM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support for Obama.)
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To: Domandred
But 141 "yeas" and 132 "present" adds up to 273 Republicans -- 63% of the House. But there are only 199 Republican members of the 110th Congress.

The alternative is that many of the "yeas" were Democrats. And, if many Democrats were in favor of the bill, why weren't most Republicans?

36 posted on 05/15/2008 1:20:21 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hold on Freepers!

It was the sham bill that was stuffed with a huge GI bill that allowed military personal to have full college after only 3 years of service. This would have depleted the Armed Forces and very expensive to train people who can just leave in 3 years.

The DemocRATs staged this knowing the Republicans would let it fail so that the Rats would look like the defeated the funding of the Iraq War. PURE POLITICAL THEATER BY THE DISGUSTING RATS!

37 posted on 05/15/2008 1:20:22 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Fox_Mulder77

The GOP has got our feathers in a ruffle with their moves lately. I think we’re just expecting the worst every time they even have a vote.


38 posted on 05/15/2008 1:21:09 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: WesternPacific
We (Republicans) don't want to face the prospect that our party has been hijacked by demoncrats professing our beliefs, yet voting liberal.
39 posted on 05/15/2008 1:22:45 PM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: Sub-Driver; navyguy; TommyDale; WesternPacific; rocksblues; samtheman; Obadiah; ZULU; workerbee
Instead of attacking the 132 GOP's who voted "present", read the background of this bad bill:

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN08395161

It was a surrender bill, which would have been vetoed by Bush!

40 posted on 05/15/2008 1:23:08 PM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support for Obama.)
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