“Please let me know what you think.”
Fair enough.
I think that Sen. McCain is not to be trusted, and the SCOTUS issue is a predictable red herring. Sen. McCain can put all the advisers he wants on his panel, but he’s ultimately going to do whatever he darn well pleases. As far as Sen. McCain is concerned, conservatives can go straight to hades. His SCOTUS nominees, if any, will reflect his hostility toward conservative ideals.
I also think that what you’re essentially “voting for” are not justices in the mold of Alito and Thomas, but justices in the mold of Souter, Burger, and O’Connor.
McCain has a good rating from the NRA.
and seeing how the 2nd Amendment is the one that guarantees the whole constitution, I must hold my nose and vote for McQueeg.....but that does not make me happy to do so.
I’m going to have to agree with poster (A Balrog of Morgoth). John McCain is attempting to force conservatives to ratify the global warming fraud out of fear of an Obama or Hillary presidency. What’s worse is I think the guy enjoys sticking it to conservatives. Up until McCain’s recent speech outlining his global warming agenda I could have voted for him, but not any more. McCain’s proposed environmental policy is Socialism pure and simple and I’m not going to deliberately support it with my vote. We as a party must look at the long term. McCain will destroy the conservative movement and the GOP.
From my screen name you might accurately conclude that issues concerning the RKBA are important to me to say the least, so you can understand how difficult it is for me to decline to support our party’s nominee.
Organization amongst conservatives is key to controlling Mr. McCain.
I can’t even get conservatives to show up at local town meetings to politically clean up their own backyards. How can conservatives exert any influence when they don’t show up at meetings to control their local governments
The Founders realized you must have a political base - local government - to operate from before taking on large central government. That lesson hasn’t been learned yet.
Just a few things I wanted to point out here.
If Sandy Froman is advising McCain on judges with respect to the 2nd Amendment, thats a good thing. She is one of the good guys (maybe gals is more appropriate here).
If Bob Bahr had any shot whatsoever to win the Presidency from the constitutional party I would vote for him in a second. He doesn’t so if I vote for him or some other third party candidate in the general election I’m just wasting my vote.
I could agree with people who say vote third party or stay home about John McCain except for one reason. That is that all signs appear to show that the down ticket people are going to take a blood bath. Three safe seats in Mississippi Louisisana and Illinois have just gone from red to blue. It’s not a good trend. Obama in the white house without support from Congress is not the worst thing in the world. However, if the dumbocrats get a super majority in the Congress with Obama as President that is simply not an option.
In conclusion, I would have to say that holding my nose and voting for McCain is the only option. Getting half of what I want and being raging mad at the other half is better than getting universal health care, higher taxes and socialist judges rammed down my throat. It’s the world we live in right now. The important thing is that he gives us a good conservative VP and we go out and do all we can to support the down ticket people in the Congress and the Senate.
The last thing I wanted to address is someone who mentioned about the 10th amendment being trampled during the Civil war. While it’s true that the 10th amendment has been trampled upon, I don’t think that having the federal government step in and stop a whole race of people (Americans by the way) from being denied their civil liberties qualifies as trampling on the 10th amendment. If the federal government is not there to protect all of our civil liberties even when the state government won’t what is it for?
Pander.
Promote.
Provoke.
What he says and how he says it will determine if there is any hope for this election term for gun-owners. If either of the DIMS win, gun prices will skyrocket, gun shows and ownership will be in deep trouble.
That's why I'm voting McCain.
The question boils down to, “Would you rather drink arsenic by choice, or risk being forced to drink cyanide.”
Vote RINO! Hey, you might survive the arsenic!
I certainly agree about the importance of SCOTUS appointees with respect to a number of constitutional issues, not the least of which is the Second Amendment. However, there is an aspect of this I have not seen discussed in this thread, namely that the President only nominates Justices; the Senate must confirm them.
If the next Senate is solidly Democratic (as suggested by recent elections), there is little chance that a conservative Justice would be confirmed. So, here is my question: Do you really trust a McCain presidency to leave SCOTUS seats empty if the Senate won’t confirm them? Or would he “reach out” to another Gang of 14 and compromise on moderate nominees?
While it may not be achievable, it would seem the only way to protect the SOCTUS is to vote down-ticket, electing enough Republican Senators to block bad nominations.
I honestly think he’s already lost this election.......GOP knew this would happen IMO. Very weak selection . No good solution yet no good can come from the next 4 years from any of these candidates offered too us..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
Stay safe !
Here are my thoughts:
1) I can’t stand John McCain.
2) Despite 1), McCain is far from completely imperfect. He IS somewhat pro-gun, IS a genuine patriot (albeit misguided and mistaken quite often, but clearly different from Obama), and he IS fiscally somewhat responsible.
3) I positively fear the short-term and long-term effects of an Obama Presidency.
Look, this choice SUCKS. In my 47 years, this is the biggest train wreck of an election we’ve ever had. I am completely disillusioned about a political process that allowed Dems to nominate McCain in the Republican primary by crossing over, with the full support of the leftist media (who dutifully ignored the phenomenon so as not to arouse conservative Republicans).
BUT...
...there IS a clear choice. McCain is only the lesser of 2 evils, but he is so by a large margin on the most important issues.
Obama will abandon the War on Terror, making us a laughing stock as at no time since at least April, 1975, when we fled Vietnam with our tails between our legs. 4,000 of our heroes will have died for NOTHING, and $500 Billion would have been poured down a rathole for NOTHING. McCain will do no such thing.
Obama will raise taxes, especially on the biggest companies and the wealthiest individuals (of which I’m decidedly NOT one), the very engines of job creation and economic growth. McCain will be less than perfect, but won’t saddle the economy with vastly higher taxes.
Obama will do all in his power to ban, or make expensive and difficult the acquisition of, guns, ammo and accessories. He’ll be appointing the AG and the head of BATFE. McCain may not be our best friend (or even close), but he’s extraordinarily far from being our worst nightmare.
Obama will appoint the most leftist, activist judges and justices imaginable. The lower court ones will actually be more important, as 99% of their decisions are either never appealed or not accepted by the Supreme Court. McCain may weasel out on his promise to appoint Originalists, but the worst we’ll get is a bunch of raging moderates or weak activists.
Obama will abandon Israel (all the while proclaiming that we back its right to exist), leading soon to a general Mideast war and possible nuke use near 2/3 of the world’s known oil reserves. Not good for the economy - if you hate $4.00 gas, try $10.00 on for size, IF you can get it. McCain at least knows an ally when he sees one, and his position and military knowledge and experience will, if anything, deter such a war.
Obama will gut the military, McCain won’t.
The list goes on and on. Bottom line: there’s a clear choice, and the option of substituting a different Republican for McCain is simply not available. The argument that it’ll be good for conservatism to elect Obama and let him royally mess us up is - on its face - attractive (similar to Ford v. Carter in ‘76, with Reagan waiting in the wings for 1980). HOWEVER, such a scenario requires 2 things we don’t have: 1) a Reagan in the wings; and 2) a high degree of certainty that the damage inflicted by Obama, his minions and the rest of America’s enemies over the next four years can be absorbed by this country and shrugged off under a new Reagan. I’m not sure about that, and I’m not willing to gamble.
In short, as much as I despise McCain, I’ll vote for him ONLY for the purpose of stopping that walking disaster, Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. I despise McCain, but I love my country more. I can’t sit idly by and allow Obama to waltz into the White House because I’m in a snit about McCain.
Something else to consider: McCain is fairly old and not in the greatest of health. No, I don’t expect him to drop dead any time in the next 8 years (nor do I hope for it), but the simple fact is that there’s a significantly higher probability of his dying in office than a much younger and healthier man. As such, his Veep choice is far more important than Obama’s, and offers (at this point in time) at least the potential of getting a fairly conservative President in through the back door. Again, I do NOT hope for or expect this to occur, but it cannot go unmentioned.
Spoiled children take their ball and go home when they don’t like the direction of a game. Adults play it out, and never stop trying to win even if the odds look bad.
I think that there will always be an emergency that will have people saying, "But you've gotta vote for the RINO! Abortion/2nd Amendment rights/Welfare/Supreme Court Nominations/etc depend on it!"
There will always be people who will tell us that we have to swallow garbage because they are somehow of the opinion that conservative garbage is better than liberal garbage as long as it is for a good cause, whatever that good cause is.
But there comes a time when we have to realize that the lesser of two evils is still evil and that moral relativism is an insidious mental disease conquered only when one says "no more!" and means it, come what may.
It has to stop somewhere and now is as good a time as any other.
Actually, now is a better time than any other, because the longer we wait to fix what is broken, the harder it will be to fix.
The issue of USSC appointments is the only reason I’m holding my nose and voting GOP this year. While President Bush has been a disappintment to conservatives, there’s little doubt that Kerry would not have nominated Roberts and Alito to serve on the USSC.