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McCain on the Issues - Health Insurance Reform
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Posted on 05/15/2008 12:33:03 AM PDT by Bob J

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There is a strong anti-McCain movement on FR and while there is nothing wrong with that in general I feel that some of those involved have been in engaging in an effort of mischaracterization and misinformation on where McCain stands on the issues. The anti-McCain crowd consistently state that there is no difference between McCain and Obama/Clinton, which is simply ridiculous. There are points where the difference is less stark than others but to make a sweeping claim such as that, IMO, demonstrates the hsyterical lengths some will go to try to get others to stay home or vote third party on election day. Now McCain wasn't my #1 candidate as he wasn't for most FReepers, but he will be the GOP nominee and a realistic analysis of his positions free from rhetoric and hysteria is important to gaining a full understanding of what to expect from him if he were to win the election.

In the interests of having a rational discussion and attempting to soberly define where McCains stands on the issues and whether or not there is a "difference" between him and his opponents, I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.

To those "one issue" voters, please don't muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you're chance will come.

1 posted on 05/15/2008 12:33:04 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
Hey, don't worry. I'm going to vote for the cranky old opportunistic back-stabbing global warming-nut fart.

 

...I'm depressed.

2 posted on 05/15/2008 12:36:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Bob J
The following questions relate specifically to McCain's stance on health reform, and the financing of same:

1.) Whom, specifically, do you suppose will be paying for the health care McCain's beloved additional 30-to-40 million additional illegals are (inevitably) going to need?

2.) From where, specifically, do you suppose that money will logically be coming? Will the marvelous magical Money Fairy be providing, in this instance... or: will McCain ultimately need to tap some other source, instead?

3 posted on 05/15/2008 12:36:42 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Oh, man, I left out “amnesty loving”. Somebody shoot me.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 12:39:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Oh, man, I left out “amnesty loving”.

An easy enough mistake to make. It's quite the list, isn't it...? ;)

5 posted on 05/15/2008 12:40:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Bob J

I’d get an account over on DU if I was you. Post your professorial McCain stuff over there. That’s where McCain thinks all the votes are. He hates our 25 percent of the party.


6 posted on 05/15/2008 12:47:45 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

Ya, I’ll do that right away.


7 posted on 05/15/2008 12:48:44 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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Let me see, first 5 posts, four about immigration and one telling me to go to DU.

About par for the course for intellectualism FR these days. Let's grab a pitchfork and light the torch!

8 posted on 05/15/2008 12:51:58 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Bob J
Let me see, first 5 posts, four about immigration

Even for a McCain supporter, that's fairly brazen dishonesty. Are you seriously contending that the questions in #3 are NOT health care-related ones?

9 posted on 05/15/2008 12:53:55 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Bob J
About par for the course for intellectualism FR these days. Let's grab a pitchfork and light the torch!

Hey, I'm voting for the A-hole. What more do you want?

10 posted on 05/15/2008 1:03:14 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Bob J
I'm with you. Now, I still don't get how his plan work. It seems that he'll delegate the health care plan to the states, rather than one national system, and have a lengthy discussion with each state about what's best for them. The states will then carry out the program with some help from the national administration. Am I right?

The question remains: how is he going to pay for it?

Thx.

11 posted on 05/15/2008 1:06:46 AM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Hence the quotes.)
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Why not just lower overall taxation? Oh, then the government wouldn't be able to redistribute the wealth and would give up power. Silly me.

More prayer...it will calm me down.

12 posted on 05/15/2008 1:28:33 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bob J
Oh, sorry, was I supposed to attack you for posting this? I didn't get the memo... ; )

Seriously, I'm just glad to see we still have Freepers from pre-2k on the board. We've lost too many good people over others venting their frustrations.

Are you sure you didn't help coordinate McCain's primary victory? Just making sure...LOL!

Cheers, I'm just funnin'...I wish the others were.

13 posted on 05/15/2008 1:32:00 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bob J

I missed the part where McCain discusses how he is going to give “free” health care insurance to the nation’s bums, losers, and parasites (the Democrat “base”). Can I surmise it will be the old-fashioned way, by confiscating it from the nation’s taxpaying, traditional American families (the Republican “base”)?

Also, did McCain mention how the illegal hordes fit into his plan?
If he did, I missed it.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 1:36:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Oh, please. Sap-happy McCainiacs still bent on stifling free speech? What next?

They need to get a handle on how politics works in the USA.

The vast US electorate is madeup of various voting blocs. Everybody has a chance to show their stuff.

Politicians take positions (1) which he believes in, and, (2) which will earn him the most votes.

Voters make the judgement at the polls.

It's easy to figure out: vote-starved candidates are at the mercy of the voters.

15 posted on 05/15/2008 3:31:43 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Bob J
I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.

Waste of time. McCain buried himself here the other day with his Soviet-style "cap and trade/industry takeover" plan.

I'll vote Libertarian before I ever vote for that creep, and if Obama wins, so be it. At least the GOP will then be forced to take account of itself and come running back to its Conservative base for 2012.

16 posted on 05/15/2008 3:35:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Lancey Howard
......did McCain mention how the illegal hordes fit into his plan? If he did, I missed it.....

Here's a way to get an answer (/sarc).

(1) Go to the next McCain campaign stop. (2) Ask McCain his position on amnesty, illegals, or reconquista. (3) When you are ejected for asking the question (as is the McCain practice), you will get a clue.

Another way to get a clue: Watch McCain pucker up, get on his knees, and suck up to illegals like a dry drunk with his mouth glued to a beer keg.

17 posted on 05/15/2008 3:41:26 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Bob J

I’m honestly curious as to why its impossible to have insurance companies providing some competitive affordable health insurance that is purchased much the same way as we do Automobile, Home, Life Insurance. Is it simply insanely complex liability issues? Why is this not even an option at all? Is there some crossing state lines issues?

Just trying to be on topic here...

Thank you for the post.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 3:43:01 AM PDT by Eragon (so sad. too young. Much Loved.)
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To: Bob J; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Bob J, I do not see any “whining” on FR about Juan anymore among conservatives. The whining is coming from the McCain cheerleaders, same as it did from the Rudy cheerleaders.

You can't seem to force conservatives to back a man that is more a Democrat than a Reagan conservative. Why the McCain crowd invites scorn by dissing Reagan constantly in order to make Juan look more palpable.

You should of seen the anger and scorn around here last year when Juan and his buddy Fat Ted tried to sneak through their amnesty bill. Juan, as usual was full of self righteous indignation about how he knows better than anyone else. We all knew it was about cheap labor for the Chambers of Commerce, and getting the taxpayers to pay for the benefits, so business could profit at the expense of our sovereignty and culture.

We don't forget things like that.

I am proud of the strong anti-McCain movement here, there was also a strong anti-Rudy movement. Nothing personal on them, but this is a forum for grass roots conservatism. Neither one of those liberals fit the bill.

The “good” FReepers you talk about flamed out on the bug zapper thread because they embraced the liberal GOP and were rude to conservatives.

One thing I can say that might help you. Listen up. There were quite a few around here that were going to vote for McCain even though they couldn't stand him. They now are not going to. It wasn't by FReepers against McCain that made them change their minds to not vote for him.

Every time McCain opens his mouth for another speech embracing liberal or socialist policies, he loses more and more people who were thinking about voting for him out of fear. HE ALONE is responsible for alienating more and more voters. Speaking about Gorebal warming, addressing LaRaza, geez. it doesn't get much worse than that.

Believe me Bob, we all know what to expect from McCain and we are going to take part in it.

19 posted on 05/15/2008 4:15:16 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

Worthy of a standing ovation! ;) Bravo!


20 posted on 05/15/2008 4:17:29 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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