In the interests of having a rational discussion and attempting to soberly define where McCains stands on the issues and whether or not there is a "difference" between him and his opponents, I will post one new McCain issue standpoint a day.
To those "one issue" voters, please don't muck up these threads by bringing up the other issues not being discussed this day, you're chance will come.
...I'm depressed.
1.) Whom, specifically, do you suppose will be paying for the health care McCain's beloved additional 30-to-40 million additional illegals are (inevitably) going to need?
2.) From where, specifically, do you suppose that money will logically be coming? Will the marvelous magical Money Fairy be providing, in this instance... or: will McCain ultimately need to tap some other source, instead?
I’d get an account over on DU if I was you. Post your professorial McCain stuff over there. That’s where McCain thinks all the votes are. He hates our 25 percent of the party.
The question remains: how is he going to pay for it?
Thx.
More prayer...it will calm me down.
Seriously, I'm just glad to see we still have Freepers from pre-2k on the board. We've lost too many good people over others venting their frustrations.
Are you sure you didn't help coordinate McCain's primary victory? Just making sure...LOL!
Cheers, I'm just funnin'...I wish the others were.
I missed the part where McCain discusses how he is going to give “free” health care insurance to the nation’s bums, losers, and parasites (the Democrat “base”). Can I surmise it will be the old-fashioned way, by confiscating it from the nation’s taxpaying, traditional American families (the Republican “base”)?
Also, did McCain mention how the illegal hordes fit into his plan?
If he did, I missed it.
Waste of time. McCain buried himself here the other day with his Soviet-style "cap and trade/industry takeover" plan.
I'll vote Libertarian before I ever vote for that creep, and if Obama wins, so be it. At least the GOP will then be forced to take account of itself and come running back to its Conservative base for 2012.
I’m honestly curious as to why its impossible to have insurance companies providing some competitive affordable health insurance that is purchased much the same way as we do Automobile, Home, Life Insurance. Is it simply insanely complex liability issues? Why is this not even an option at all? Is there some crossing state lines issues?
Just trying to be on topic here...
Thank you for the post.
You can't seem to force conservatives to back a man that is more a Democrat than a Reagan conservative. Why the McCain crowd invites scorn by dissing Reagan constantly in order to make Juan look more palpable.
You should of seen the anger and scorn around here last year when Juan and his buddy Fat Ted tried to sneak through their amnesty bill. Juan, as usual was full of self righteous indignation about how he knows better than anyone else. We all knew it was about cheap labor for the Chambers of Commerce, and getting the taxpayers to pay for the benefits, so business could profit at the expense of our sovereignty and culture.
We don't forget things like that.
I am proud of the strong anti-McCain movement here, there was also a strong anti-Rudy movement. Nothing personal on them, but this is a forum for grass roots conservatism. Neither one of those liberals fit the bill.
The “good” FReepers you talk about flamed out on the bug zapper thread because they embraced the liberal GOP and were rude to conservatives.
One thing I can say that might help you. Listen up. There were quite a few around here that were going to vote for McCain even though they couldn't stand him. They now are not going to. It wasn't by FReepers against McCain that made them change their minds to not vote for him.
Every time McCain opens his mouth for another speech embracing liberal or socialist policies, he loses more and more people who were thinking about voting for him out of fear. HE ALONE is responsible for alienating more and more voters. Speaking about Gorebal warming, addressing LaRaza, geez. it doesn't get much worse than that.
Believe me Bob, we all know what to expect from McCain and we are going to take part in it.
I’m 100% in favor of doctors dispensing health care to patients.
So, a low income earner that pays $12,000.00 in health insurance premiums for his family for a good bluecross blueshield plan...due to low income, he pays low taxes. He sacrifices much else to have the health insurance.
If he is getting a tax credit, that normally means he has a dollar for dollar reduction in his taxes for the credit. For low income earners who pay no or little tax, are you saying the credit is limited to what they might pay in taxes?
My daughter makes a low income as a camp counselor, and she pays no income tax?
What good does a credit do her? zero.
Boy, that will sure encourage pharma companies to sink billions into R&D for new drugs, knowing that McCain is looking to get the results of that research to generic status more quickly.
Indylindy is right. McCain is McCain's worst enemy among conservatives. I am willing to vote for McCain for one reason and one reason only - the WOT. And all I can look foward to between now and November is an endless barrage of McCain's liberalism to challenge my willingness to vote for him.
YES! This is a big part of reigning in both health insurance costs and health care costs.
Business Week: "McCain's Health-Care Proposal" by Catherine Arnst
The reason that we have fallen into the trap of thinking about constitutionally unauthorized federal public health care is as follows.
This post (<-click), while addressing taxes, helps to explain how 10th A. protected state powers were wrongly politically repealed by the USSC when FDR established his constitutionally unauthorized New Deal programs.
In fact, government "leaders" like Obama and Clinton are actually in contempt of the Constitution that they have sworn to defend because they are foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty federal spending politics. Indeed, the article referenced below shows that Obama is the #1 federal spending proposer in the Senate for '08; Clinton is #2.
Obama and Clinton, big-shot federal spendersAlso consider that when Jefferson discussed the Founder's division of federal and state government powers, he noted that the Founders had trusted the states, not the federal government, with the care of the people.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons, (emphasized by Amendment10) our property, our reputation and religious freedom." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262 http://tinyurl.com/onx4jThe truth of the matter is that if Obama, Clinton or McCain wants to start spending federal dollars in the name of health care then they are obligated to do the following. They must first do what FDR neglected to do and rally the people to exercise their Article V powers to properly amend the Constitution to authorize the feds to manage health care. Until such a time, however, health care remains a state power issue.
The people need to reconnect with the Founder's division of federal and state government powers. The people then need to wise up to the major problem that the federal government is not operating within the restraints of the federal Constitution, particularly where constitutionally unauthorized federal spending is concerned as evidenced by the idea of national health care.
The bottom line is that the people need to send big-shot, Constitution-ignoring federal spenders like Obama and Clinton home as opposed to trying to send people like them to the Oval Office. The people need to get in the faces of the feds, demanding a stop to constitutionally unauthorized federal spending while appropriately lowering federal taxes - or get out of DC.
John McCain needs to go read Milton Friedman if he really wants to reform heath care.