Smoke Nazis Roll Over Pipe Smokers Convention, Individual Rights

DBKP ^ | May 14, 2008 | Mondoreb

[mondoreb]

SMOKE NAZIS On the March in: Chicago

Smoke Nazis in the Chicago area rolled over the right of free association, when they forced attendees to the Chicagoland International Pipe and Tobacciana Show to go outside to smoke.

At the Chicagoland International Pipe & Tobacciana Show in St. Charles, IL, attendees have been told that, due to a statewide smoking ban that went into effect in January, they may not light up even though theirs is a private gathering of only willing participants. This, despite the fact that the conventioneers bent over backwards to try to reach an accommodation.

There was a time--years in the past--when one could volunteer for the American Cancer Society fund raisers without feeling like a fascist. Now, the ACS is one of the leading components of the Nanny State.

Mike Grady, the ACS's Illinois director of public policy, illustrated the Cancer Society's belief that they are on the side of right--and your rights be damned.

"This is the first time we've seen such a blatant attempt . . . to actually undermine the law through legal sophistry. We're very happy with the outcome. This is the perfect example that the law is being enforced."

Some officials are more insufferable than--cancer?

At least in Illinois, the smoking ban was passed by the legislature and signed by the governor. They can be held accountable for their actions in the next election.

In many locales, smoking bans are administered by Health Departments and Health Boards: groups of unelected officials who can write citations, levy fines and, in some cases, order jail time for offenders. In these cases, voters have no recourse.

[mondoreb]

Smoke Nazis will not stop--even if every smoker quit today. They would only transfer their need to control and regulate to another behavior, another cause.

[Wolfie]

Man, that’s a shame.

[sauropod]

Quite correct.

[Jack Black]

Indian Casinos are the only place in Washington State you can have a beer and a cigar. Needless to say business is booming. I think it’s very ironic that the only people who are really free in the state are the Indians.

Good for them!

[Mr. K]

I know too many people who smoke who HAVE NOT gotten cancer to have faith in the reports anymore.

There is a population of people who never smoked who get lung cancer- can we conclude that NOT smoking causes cancer? Of course not.

Everything in moderation.

Oh and I quit a long time ago. I am not suggesting I am convinced it is healthy, I just don’t believe the nazi do-gooders anymore

[pogo101]

“I HATE Illinois Nazis.”

- The Blues Brothers

[ChiMark]

The sheeple stand by willingly giving up
there freedoms cause the Guberment cares!

[at bay]

At least in Illinois, the smoking ban was passed by the legislature and signed by the governor

Nazis all! And the people that voted them in, Nazis too! I mean, it's not like this is a poisonous product that clogs our morgues, hospitals and nursing homes. Oh wait, nevermnd. It is.

[mondoreb]

Nazis all! You're right; but it's a little easier to swallow knowing that at least the legislature and governor are Smoke Nazis of a representative kind--able to be voted out and face the wrath of the voters.

[onedoug]

Fight nazism. Smoke a cigar.

"Light 'em up if you got 'em."

[Jack Black]

"Smoking on the Res with Joe"

Smokey Joe's Cigar Lounge

[weegee]

Freedom noun 1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial. 2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc. 3. the power to determine action without restraint. 4. political or national independence. 5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom. 6. exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear. 7. the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc. 8. ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country. 9. frankness of manner or speech. 10. general exemption or immunity: freedom from taxation. 11. the absence of ceremony or reserve. 12. a liberty taken. 13. a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation: freedom to levy taxes. 14. civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government. 15. the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like. 16. the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will: to have the freedom of a friend's library. 17. Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination. Compare necessity (def. 7). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: bef. 900; ME fredom, OE fréodōm. See free, -dom] —Synonyms 1. Freedom, independence, liberty refer to an absence of undue restrictions and an opportunity to exercise one's rights and powers. Freedom emphasizes the opportunity given for the exercise of one's rights, powers, desires, or the like: freedom of speech or conscience; freedom of movement. Independence implies not only lack of restrictions but also the ability to stand alone, unsustained by anything else: Independence of thought promotes invention and discovery. Liberty, though most often interchanged with freedom, is also used to imply undue exercise of freedom: He took liberties with the text. 9. openness, ingenuousness. 12. license. 16. run. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. ------------ The Indians in the state are free from such rules being dictated by the state. They are not under the authority of the government.

[libertarian27]

Powerful Pictures - Thanks for the Article.

[demsux]

Move the convention to St. Louis...we will welcome them with open arms (and bars).

[uglybiker]

At least in Illinois, the smoking ban was passed by the legislature and signed by the governor. They can be held accountable for their actions in the next election.

Yeah. Like that's gonna happen. < /sarcasm>

[Knitebane]

Don't forget that Chancellor Hitler was a Nazi of a representative kind too.

Never, ever forget that he was elected.

[Polybius]

I know too many people who smoke who HAVE NOT gotten cancer to have faith in the reports anymore. There is a population of people who never smoked who get lung cancer- can we conclude that NOT smoking causes cancer? Of course not.

Not to be pro or anti smoking but the logic is every loose.

"I know too many people who have been in combat in their 20's and 30's who HAVE NOT died to have faith in the reports anymore.

There is a population of people who never been in combat who have died in their 20's and 30's - can we conclude that NOT going into combat causes death? Of course not."

Does going into combat increase the premature death rate of the population that goes into combat?

Yes.

Does smoking increase the premature death rate of the population that smokes?

Yes.

Am I going to tell people that they cannot risk their lives if they want to?

No.

[uglybiker]

Not to mention a rabid anti-smoker, as well.

[andy58-in-nh]

Smoking is unquestionably a bad habit, but the issue of second-hand exposure is hardly settled as a matter of science. The evidence is, well, hazy. Under such circumstances, free people could normally be entrusted to reach voluntary agreements and mutually satisfactory arrangements. But, no. The desire for control over other people’s lives and resources (a pretty bad habit, too) translates into taxation, then regulation, then punitive law, and finally to the use of police state power.

[the_devils_advocate_666]

I’m very surprised that caffeine has yet to come under attack.