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French drinkers face compulsory breath tests in bars to reduce drink driving deaths
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 05/12/08 | dailymail.co.uk

Posted on 05/12/2008 5:56:32 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

French drinkers could be forced to take a breath test whenever they leave a bar at night in a bid to reduce soaring road deaths.

The plan, which will be put before President Nicolas Sarkozy's cabinet today, would require anywhere that serves alochol to install an electronic breathalyser.

The move follows a particularly deadly holiday weekend on French roads, in which drink-driving was blamed for many of the 17 deaths in seven accidents.

New law: Drinkers at this bar in Aix-en-Provence will face obligatory breathalyser tests

Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said: "Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot and I will present a decree to make electronic breathalyser tests obligatory in drinking establishments open until 2am, so that everyone can check their level, their condition upon leaving."

"I hope that by this summer, it will be obligatory in all such places," he added, noting that the idea has already been trialled at 350 cafes and bars in the west of France.

In the weekend's deadliest accident, four people aged 15 through 26 were killed on Saturday when the car they were in went off the road near Forbach, in the east of France.

Police said the 36-year-old driver who survived had been drinking.

New laws being proposed in the Paris parliment today would make electronic breathalyser tests compulsory in all bars open until 2am.

The plans to force drinkers to take a B-test comes after 17 people were killed in drink-drive accidents on France's roads last weekend.

Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said: "I will present a decree at the council of ministers to make electronic breathalyser tests obligatory in drinking establishments open until 2am, so that everyone can check their level and their condition upon leaving.

"I hope that by this summer, it will be obligatory in all such places."

The idea had already been trialled at 350 cafes and bars in the west of France, where police reported a reduction in the level of drink-related road deaths.

In last weekend's deadliest accident, four passengers aged 15 to 26 were killed on Saturday when the car they were in went off the road near Forbach, eastern France. Police said the 36-year-old driver, who survived, had been drinking.


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1 posted on 05/12/2008 5:56:33 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Of course. Because the reason people drive drunk is because they don’t know they have been drinking.


2 posted on 05/12/2008 5:59:45 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

No mention of consequences... strange.


3 posted on 05/12/2008 5:59:52 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: DocRock

“No mention of consequences... strange.”

Consequences for the drunk driving or for leaving a bar with alcohol on your breath?


4 posted on 05/12/2008 6:01:15 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: TornadoAlley3

Even for those walking home or taking the subway?


5 posted on 05/12/2008 6:05:59 AM PDT by posterchild ("Congress does two things very well: one is nothing and two is overreact." - Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga)
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To: TornadoAlley3
...the idea has already been trialled at 350 cafes and bars in the west of France.

When they tried that around here, guys were having contests to see who could blow the highest numbers!

6 posted on 05/12/2008 6:06:10 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

In related news, sales of mouthwash and soap have soared in France, recently...........


7 posted on 05/12/2008 6:06:15 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Coming to a bar near you..

Time to open breath bouncer schools.


8 posted on 05/12/2008 6:07:25 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: TornadoAlley3
I loathe drunk drivers.
They are no different from a person shooting into a crowd.

9 posted on 05/12/2008 6:09:51 AM PDT by elizabetty (Voting for McCain is like deciding to cut off your leg because it is stuck in a bear trap.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Why not a breath tester on every sidewalk that could also register DNA?
10 posted on 05/12/2008 6:10:09 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

There was a country bar here in NC that did this, maybe 15 years ago. The state made them stop because it was reducing the number of DUIs they were passing out.


11 posted on 05/12/2008 6:12:11 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: TornadoAlley3
They may as well close all the bars down and have done with it. That goes for any restaurant that serves alcohol as well.
12 posted on 05/12/2008 6:12:22 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: driftdiver
"Consequences for the drunk driving or for leaving a bar with alcohol on your breath?"

Neither. The article doesn't mention the consequences for failing the test.

13 posted on 05/12/2008 6:12:52 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
“obligatory in drinking establishments open until 2am”

I expect a lot of bars will change their hours to close at 1:30 AM.

Applying this law to all patrons, will you be allowed to leave if you are drunk but have a taxi or designated driver? The devil is in the details.

14 posted on 05/12/2008 6:38:13 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: TornadoAlley3

The BAC [blood alcohol limit] in France is .05

Most people will go over that with more than 1 drink per hour.


15 posted on 05/12/2008 6:59:11 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: driftdiver
In my neighborhood, the cops often show up out front of big parties giving breathalyser tests — before people get to their cars. A very good service if you ask me.
16 posted on 05/12/2008 7:08:41 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: TornadoAlley3

It is a pity that this is compulsory, but that might be the only option. However, it does not seem to be well thought through. No matter how it is done, it needs to be a comprehensive system.

What would probably be better overall, would be to first bring together bar owners, and to put together a system that would have them all on board. Some of its elements:

1) Already there are some cities who subsidize a taxi company to offer low cost and even free rides to people who have had too much to drink. However, this creates the problem of the drinkers having to pick up their cars later, which is a hassle. So this program could be expanded so that taxis would take people to the bar in the first place.

Any adult could be issued a photo ID card the taxi driver could swipe in their machine, then would be swiped again at whatever bar they chose, as validation that they purchased at least one drink, to qualify for free or low cost round trips. Importantly, this isn’t *required* in any way, but it gives you a discount, like a grocery store card. An incentive for patrons to take a cab instead of their car. It would also apply to mass transit.

2) A similar concept applies to the Breathalyzers, in that it is just as important to know how intoxicated someone is when they *enter* a bar, as when they are leaving the bar.

So in addition to having machines in the bar, bars should be encouraged to give *discounts* on drinks if you blow into the Breathalyzer *first*, each time. Make it almost into a drinking game. Who would refuse doing it if they could get $1 off every drink? (Waivers for people with respiratory problems).

3) The biggest incentive to the program is to support bar owners with reductions in their liquor license fees and their liability insurance. Getting a liquor license is very, very expensive in many places, and liability insurance is also very pricey. This wouldn’t be too much of a reduction, just a subsidy to offset the cost of their getting with the program.

If done judiciously, everyone benefits. The bar owners save money, make more money, and get a more polite clientele. The patrons and the public are protected from accidents, and they get discounts for their efforts. Even the government saves a lot of money not having to provide emergency services for drunk driving accidents.


17 posted on 05/12/2008 7:20:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: HIDEK6

How was that even possible? The publicity should have made the state cringe. Maybe if MADD got involved.


18 posted on 05/12/2008 10:59:21 AM PDT by Clock King (Under revision...)
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To: posterchild

“Even for those walking home or taking the subway?”

You put the finger on what a Sarko government reform is.
Launched on a table by an incompetent politician during an interview, replying to a question before thinking first.


19 posted on 05/13/2008 4:14:57 AM PDT by darkness78 (y)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Eric Blair 2084

Perhaps they could enforce their drunk driving laws more effectively instead?


20 posted on 05/13/2008 4:28:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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