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McCain Apparently Calculates He Can Win Without Conservatives
May 11, 2008 | pinochet

Posted on 05/10/2008 5:00:57 PM PDT by pinochet

McCain has recently been making efforts to reach out to all sorts of people not traditionally associated with the GOP. He appeared on the View, the Daily Show, before black civil rights activists in Alabama, etc.

When is he going to make a serious effort to reach out to conservatives? How about promising to appoint strict constructionist judges? How about re-assurances on gun ownership rights? What about reducing the out-of-control spending of this administation? Does he take conservative support for granted? Does he even want them?

Maybe he sees that Obama and his kooky spiritual advisor have totally freaked most Americans. Apparently, he thinks he can build a coalition of RINOS, Independents, and Hillary Clinton Democrats. Those voters, combined with some sullen conservatives who will vote out of party loyalty and "stand by their man" like abused housewives, will be enough to assure him victory.

The media has long praised McCain for repudiating the "wingnuts", as they describe his party's base. If McCain can win without any effort to reach out to conservatives, then he will ignore them completely while in office. The conservative movement of Reagan of 1980-1988, and Gingrich of 1994-1998, is either dead or on life-support.


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To: pinochet
He will get all the praise, which will help him lead his so-called “moderate coalition” to victory in November.

Is that HIS fantasy, or yours?

21 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:04 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: pinochet
When is he going to make a serious effort to reach out to conservatives? How about promising to appoint strict constructionist judges? How about re-assurances on gun ownership rights? What about reducing the out-of-control spending of this administation? Does he take conservative support for granted? Does he even want them?

He hasn't for at least a decade that I know of. Why would he start today?

Have you ever attended a movie that you felt would be such a loser that you left saying to yourself, "That wasn't so bad after all?"

I feel this is about our only hope for a McCain Presidency. I do think you will have a McCain Administration because Obama talks with such lunacy that he makes George McGovern sound sane.

The only good part of the McCain campaaign is that there are so many moderates and liberals who want him to win that I won't need to do my usual leg work this fall on his behalf. I'm sure there are lots of moderates and liberals just waiting in line to carry the ball.

22 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:06 PM PDT by stevem
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To: devere
If you think the USA can survive 4 or more years of Obama without serious damage, then don’t vote for John McCain.

I see very little difference between B. Hussein Obama and Juan McCain.

They're both economically ignorant.

Obama wants to pull out of Iraq now. McCain will do the same when he sees the 'rats suggest to him it's the "right thing to do, isn't it John?"

23 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:10 PM PDT by sauropod (Forgive me Gore, for I have emitted.)
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To: pinochet

If he thinks he can win without conservatives and then wins without conservative he doesn’t have to govern with any conservative policies at all and can concentrate on MSM adulation which he won’t get because he is not part of the right organization.Maybe he will switch parties midterm.


24 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:24 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: pinochet

“McCain Apparently Calculates He Can Win Without Conservatives”

I am REALLY looking forward to watching him fail....er, try.


25 posted on 05/10/2008 5:15:54 PM PDT by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: pinochet

I can foresee something more like a McCain-Kennedy ticket. *sigh*


26 posted on 05/10/2008 5:16:32 PM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: pinochet
mclame had better hope his calculation is right, because this conservative will NOT be pulling the lever for him.

To be sure, I'll be voting for conservatives this November, but I'm sick to death of voting for the lesser evil.

27 posted on 05/10/2008 5:16:48 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Win without conservatives? Of course that’s the way he’s been thinking right along. Sad thing is, he may well be right. Other than the occasional bone and some lip service, conservatives get little from him.
Basically Mccain knows that he conservatives don't have anywhere else to go. He's going to steal a note from Obama's and W's playbook and "be a uniter not a divider" knowing that he can move to the left as far as he wants and still get enough support from disgruntled conservatives afraid of Obama while picking up Hillary democrats along the way.

It's a winning strategy, but he's going to wreck the party along the way. We desperately need a conservative 3rd party. If not to win, to keep the republicans honest.

28 posted on 05/10/2008 5:17:08 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: DoughtyOne

” neither of these two could do the damage to Conservatism that a leftist John McCain could from within the Conservative movement itself.”

Kidding, right? Obama is financed by George Soros. His buddies are old SDS and Weathermen. He has the appearance of giving Hamas and Iran a do-good. He did fire his advisor who contacted Hamas, but that was probably a cosmetic “Oh! WTF! We got caught” moment.

This guy has so much baggage and so many bad elements surrounding him that I doubt, sincerely, the country could survive four years of him. Dickie Durbin and his cronies are socialists.

“The Global Poverty Act,” has just been rushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the assistance of Democratic Senator Joe Biden, the chairman, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar. The legislation (S.2433) commits the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars more in foreign aid on the rest of the world, in order to comply with the “Millennium Goals” established by the United Nations. Conservative members of the committee were largely caught off-guard by the move to pass the Obama bill but are putting a “hold” on it, in order to try to prevent the legislation, which also quickly passed the House, from being quickly brought up for a full Senate vote.”

The European socialists are also running Obama.

We cannot stand four years of this guy. The country will never recover from it as it takes years and years to undo damage and sometimes it never heals.


29 posted on 05/10/2008 5:17:56 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: SampleMan

Excellent!


30 posted on 05/10/2008 5:18:21 PM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: OpusatFR

“...Hmmm...so who do you suggest? Obambi or Nothing?...”

“...I have to vote for McCain. I like living here...”

Then he should at least give some indication to conservatives that they are wanted. Even if he gives mere lip service and does not really mean it, that will be enough. The GOP is treating conservatives far worse than the Democrats treat blacks.


31 posted on 05/10/2008 5:19:23 PM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet
How about promising to appoint strict constructionist judges?

That is the BIGGEST issue for me. I could be wrong but I thought that he had promised to do that.
32 posted on 05/10/2008 5:19:55 PM PDT by no dems (The Democrats destroying each other gives me moments of pleasureable reflections.)
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To: pinochet
McCain should save this man the purgatory of the Congressional cesspool:

Allen West for Congress

Might just salvage some integrity for himself in the process...

33 posted on 05/10/2008 5:20:14 PM PDT by tomkat (we're hosed)
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To: pinochet

34 posted on 05/10/2008 5:20:36 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: mirkwood

35 posted on 05/10/2008 5:21:58 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: pinochet

Don’t vote for him then.

I can take an extended vacation elsewhere. I’m retired, fairly well off, have passport.

Obama is a Trojan Horse. We will have a democrat majority House and Senate and White House.

Four years of that, and the disaster will be total.


36 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:23 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He'll have to win without me.

I'm not voting for a modern Benedict Arnold. (And yes, Arnold was also a real-deal military hero, before he was a traitor.)

This is the man John McCain chose to be his "Hispanic Outreach Director." Hernandez is a certified traitor. Born in Dallas, he decided as an adult to become a dual-national Mexican citizen. His last "real" job was serving on Mexican President Vicente Fox's cabinet as his "American Reconquista Director." After that gig ran out, he worked (sic) for George Soros funded internationalist foundations, like the one that published his new book.

The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA. Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation." He believes there should be no border at all between Mexico and the USA, ever.

And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." When McCain was asked about this choice, he said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions. If so, McCain is supporting invasion and reconquista.

Then I read our Constitution, Article 4 Section 4, where it says the federal government MUST protect the states from invasion, and I can only conclude one thing: John McCain is our new Benedict Arnold.

"In his own words: McCain’s radical Hispanic outreach director Juan Hernandez on youtube"

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/27/in-his-own-words-mccains-hispanic-outreach-director-preaches-open-borders/

37 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: D-fendr

Triage:

Stop Clinton from becoming President.
Stop Obama from becoming President.
Stop McCain from become the leader of the Conservative movement.

Who does more damage to Conservatism and thereby the nation?

I will never support a situation that sees a consumate leftist installed as the leader of Conservatism.

Does the RNC oppose this person on any issue?
Do Congressional Repbulicans?
Do State level Republican Party leaders?
Do people on this forum?

A McCain victory ushers in a four year period where nobody will oppose the President who proposes leftist ideology.

John will at most have about three Senators and twenty Congressmen oppose leftist policy that he proposes, if he is elected. That means that 97 Senators and 400 plus Congressmen will back his play.

We’ve seen what John has stood for. Anyone want to take this chance?

As for me, I will fight against that possibility tooth and nail.

With Clinton or Obama in power, Conservatism grows. With McCain in office, Conservatism is essentially destroyed.


38 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: mirkwood

39 posted on 05/10/2008 5:23:09 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: no dems

He also promised to get the borders under control before legalizing illegal aliens. Since, he has proposed to start naturalizing them right along with those who have been waiting in line. I don’t trust any promise this guy makes.


40 posted on 05/10/2008 5:24:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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