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The End of the Clinton Strategy ("Strategy since Feb. 5 never stood much chance of working...")
New York Observer ^ | 05/06/2008 | Steve Kornacki

Posted on 05/07/2008 1:13:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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1 posted on 05/07/2008 1:13:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The pro-Obama/anti-Clinton writers will continue to declare it "over" for Hillary right up until she pulls a coup at the convention.

Nothing I've seen makes me think she's primed to quit.

2 posted on 05/07/2008 1:26:34 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The Hillary haters have just handed the election to Obama.


3 posted on 05/07/2008 1:32:47 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I haven't looked at the counts yet, but with Howard Dean stating that he will indeed seat Florida and Michigan, how does this impact the race?

Of course that remains to be seen, given the adjustment he will inevitably apply to the weight of their delegates.

4 posted on 05/07/2008 1:41:29 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: TheThinker
The Hillary haters have just handed the election to Obama.

You know... historically, on this site, we've always taken genuine and open pleasure in the sorrows and/or discomfiture of anyone named "Clinton," as a rule.

Pardon the holy heck out of me, for being a staid FReeper traditionalist. ;)

5 posted on 05/07/2008 1:45:15 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: TheThinker
The Hillary haters have just handed the election to Obama.

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Wait! I saw some movement!

I'm not convinced just yet. Seriously, do you think Hillary is just going to "gracefully" step aside?

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6 posted on 05/07/2008 1:46:00 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
I haven't looked at the counts yet, but with Howard Dean stating that he will indeed seat Florida and Michigan, how does this impact the race?

My understanding -- and I could be completely, 110% wrong on this one, all right? DON'T quote me. ;) -- is that, yes, the delegates for both said states do get "seated" at the convention... but: none of them actually get to cast votes during the initial (and often decisive) round of ballots, re: the selection of the party's eventual nominee. (I do believe that potential later rounds, however, are still the subject of some ongoing negotiation.)

Hope that helps.

Heck... I just hope it's actually right, come to think! ;)

7 posted on 05/07/2008 1:50:48 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: TheThinker

>> The Hillary haters have just handed the election to Obama.

You say “Hillary haters” like it’s a BAD thing.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 1:56:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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There seems to be no way to wake up Americans to self-preservaton (Obama’s ties to terrorist fund raisers, Obama’s racial confusion and racial hatred, Obama’s future Supreme Court picks) because they can't see past their own needs.

Apparently there also is no way to wake up Republicans to the threat Obama poses in the election because of Americans who have become so spineless, naive and ill educated.

9 posted on 05/07/2008 2:13:59 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If Hillary believes she can stay close through the rest of the primaries, she’ll go for that and hope for a delegate reversal. Secondly, in desperation, she could nuke out with the BLT-reparation stuff. Extremely dirty, but true and not fully addressed yet (IMO).

Let’s face it....we wanted them both to lose, but mostly NObama because most of us, I think, figure he’s slick enough to con too many voters. Thus Operation Chaos (which seems not to have caused NObama to lose).

Here’s a positive thing, which should give all us McCain “nose holders” some cheer......he spoke today about appointing judges like Roberts, Alito and Renquist (sp?) to the USSC. That’s the best reason to vote for him, IMO.

I think we’re actually lucky, as conservatives, the way things have panned out to date. NObama is beatable, and, after the past eight years, a good fightin’ chance is better than we deserve.


10 posted on 05/07/2008 2:22:22 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo
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To: TheThinker
There seems to be no way to wake up Americans to self-preservaton (Obama’s ties to terrorist fund raisers, Obama’s racial confusion and racial hatred, Obama’s future Supreme Court picks) because they can't see past their own needs.

This is exactly what I'm bemoaning. What does it take for people to see what's right in front of their eyes? Surely a few smooth but hollow words aren't enough to totally overcome commonsense.

11 posted on 05/07/2008 2:28:40 AM PDT by Nipfan
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That and the Dems have to be getting tapped out on money given two candidates driving hard late in the race. The remaining markets aren’t costly to compete in, but money still has to be raised.

The black vote will be truly monolithic for Obama regardless of his ties to terrorists and 20y in the pew of a racist. It is their time.

Obama and his wife and the fawning media will be difficult to take if McCain can’t pull this off. He’ll be an utter disaster as President. I don’t get the feeling that he’s thought too much about the day after the election if he’s won.


12 posted on 05/07/2008 2:30:32 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
It amazes me, reading the posts here, accusing the press of being conspiratorially against Hillary. They love her. To despise the Clintons now makes one the target of derision on this board. It reminds me of freaking DU around here these days. I can't believe so many Freepers love that stinking witch. McCain has apparently created a collective insanity among our people. People are becoming as nuts as he is.

The Clintons don't lose. And it's miraculous Hillary hasn't turned things completely around with all her GOP water carriers. Obama has been getting murdered in the press for a considerable period of time while Hillary's girlfriends publish vapid articles entitled “Hillary talks girl talk.” The Clintons are pure evil. Anybody who thinks McCain can beat them is delusional.

So we get this double gift, and Freepers want to give it back. A royal goofball suddenly emerges who steals the black vote from them and can eliminate the She beast, and to top it off he only wins Republican states that he can't win in the general election. But the wailing, name calling, and gnashing of teeth on Free Republic sounds like the Democrats of ten years ago during impeachment. And now people here praise the Clintons and scream like Lanny Davis if you criticize them.

I've been here since 1998 and we're all in the Twilight Zone. I never thought FR would become a Clinton board.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 2:53:02 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: TheThinker

>> Apparently there also is no way to wake up Republicans to the threat Obama poses in the election

I dread what Obama might do in the White House.

But I KNOW BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT what Hillary would do. We lived through 8 long years of Clintoon White House. Remember?

Hillary Clinton is scum. And that’s just her... we’d also end up with that... thing BILLY JEFF, who is “scum de la scum”.

No thank you!


14 posted on 05/07/2008 2:54:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Luke21

Well said.


15 posted on 05/07/2008 2:55:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Luke21
Cosigned on every, single last statement, word and syllable... twice!

Please, please run for President. I so desperately need someone genuinely SANE to vote for! ;)

16 posted on 05/07/2008 2:58:56 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: dayglored

I believe she will pull a coup.
One way or another, she’s way to valuable to the dims to not be on the ticket. Probably 30 or 40 millions votes worth.

There is nobody O could have in the second slot that would bring in as many votes as she could.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 3:03:51 AM PDT by djf
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To: Nervous Tick

Not bad, yourself. My best.


18 posted on 05/07/2008 3:05:26 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Yes, he speaks as being a Hillary Hater as a bad thing!

Seeing the Clinton's crushed and defeated is tonic to my soul!

19 posted on 05/07/2008 3:14:36 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Seeing the Clinton's crushed and defeated is tonic to my soul!

As well it bloody should be, for both of us! We're CONSERVATIVES, dammit! ;)

20 posted on 05/07/2008 3:17:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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