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Murder Spike Poses Quandary
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 6, 2008 | Gary Fields

Posted on 05/06/2008 11:04:45 AM PDT by reaganaut1

WASHINGTON -- Edward Bedenbaugh III was about to start a job as a youth-violence counselor working in inner-city schools, mediating disputes before they escalated into lethal exchanges. He was celebrating his appointment at a nightspot in an upscale part of the nation's capital when he was shot in the back five times. The 29-year-old man died the next morning, April 17, two days before his oldest daughter's 10th birthday.

He was one of 14 people, all African-Americans, to die in a 13-day spasm of violence. That surge was enough to help make this April, with 18 murders, 20% deadlier than April 2007.

The grim run hasn't been limited to Washington. Several cities around the country, including Chicago and Philadelphia, endured similar mini murder waves during the same period, leading criminologists to worry whether this signifies the beginning of a trend -- or evidence of an unnoticed one.

What is most troubling to people who study crime is that there is no simple explanation for this rise. There are the usual reasons -- the economy, poverty, gangs and crews, and the availability of firearms, but there is one that has been little explored: the migration of the prison culture back to the streets. As nearly 700,000 convicts a year return home, some may be bringing prison culture with them.

"This is part of the price we're paying for 20 years of mass incarceration," said David Kennedy, director of the Center for Crime Prevention and Control at New York City's John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; black; murder
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To: reaganaut1

We should move all the prisons to North Dakota.


21 posted on 05/06/2008 11:55:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m always amazed at articles about a crime that start out something like, “the alleged shooter was out on parole for armed robbery, for which he has been incarcerated several times”.

How did we ever come to this place?

Also, they got through a whole article about prison culture rising for the past twenty years without mentioning gansta rap, didn’t they?


22 posted on 05/06/2008 11:59:39 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: bill1952

I don’t believe this story at all.

There’s no way that anyone could be shot in Washington DC - they have a gun ban.


23 posted on 05/06/2008 12:04:15 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: reaganaut1
There are the usual reasons -- the economy, poverty, gangs and crews, and the availability of firearms...

Who writes this crap? Try this on for size, nitwit:

The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State. A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy. The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats. The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry.

Any of that ring a bell, Mr. "Gee-We-Can't-Seem-to-Figure-Out-The-Root Causes"?

More proof that Everything Liberals Know Is Wrong.

24 posted on 05/06/2008 12:10:09 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Interesting. I’ll have to think about that idea.


25 posted on 05/06/2008 12:14:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: andy58-in-nh
"The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State. A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy. The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats. The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry."

Don't forget a Supreme Court that declared all people conceived after 1973, "optional."

26 posted on 05/06/2008 12:23:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: reaganaut1

Maybe he voted for Hillary and the other guy took offense at him dissing B. Hussein and his wife A. Hussey.


27 posted on 05/06/2008 12:27:33 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: ClearCase_guy
My position is that anything more than a 10 year sentence is foolish. If the crime is bad, execute the criminal.

Sounds sensible to me, but that's the main reason it won't happen. It seems that the people who run everything in this country don't possess a whit of common sense. Their answer to any problem is to pass another law like a gun ban that is impossible to enforce and wouldn't do what was intended even if it could be enforced.

28 posted on 05/06/2008 12:43:57 PM PDT by epow ("A political career brings out the basest qualities in human nature," Lord Bryce)
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To: andy58-in-nh
"The utter destruction of the black family by the Welfare State.
A culture of entitlement fed by liberal appeals to race-hatred and class envy.

The degeneration of urban public schools from oases of learning to havens for lazy, unionized bureaucrats.
The celebration of violence, sexual promiscuity and and trash-as-art by the left-wing entertainment industry."

Ding. Stop FR.
We have the FR post of the day.

Thank you - bill

29 posted on 05/06/2008 12:57:14 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: sig226

“Common sense” is not a part of the left culture. It is one of those useless ornaments of reactionary society like “thought” and “reflection” before Society can advance to the peace and security of artels and collective farms.


30 posted on 05/06/2008 1:05:10 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: reaganaut1

Just getting in the licks before the SC rules that law abiding citizens can carry.


31 posted on 05/06/2008 1:06:27 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Vote demoncrat: Kiss goodby to your money, privacy, freedom, and guns.)
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To: reaganaut1

Obviously the answer is to ban the thug life mentality. Gun control doesn’t work, the next logical step is to ban the mentality that’s leading to a lot of the crime.


32 posted on 05/06/2008 1:10:58 PM PDT by faloi
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To: ClearCase_guy; epow
I've got an even better idea:
Let's return to the 18th century concept of criminal justice; where jails were only holding places for those awaiting trial. At the trial, an individual is either found innocent or guilty; if guilty of a minor crime he is punished by spending time in the public stocks, where the citizens may mock, spit at, and otherwise make the convict miserable; or a public flogging. After which the individual would be released. If guilty of a serious crime, or a repeat offender for thievery etc, the punishment was hanging. Recidivism rates were very low!
Plus, the taxpayers did not have to pay for lengthy incarcerations!
33 posted on 05/06/2008 1:15:36 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

DI TO......and AMEN!!!


34 posted on 05/06/2008 1:15:57 PM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
If guilty of a serious crime, or a repeat offender for thievery etc, the punishment was hanging. Recidivism rates were very low!

No doubt. As I said before, criminals don't usually commit any more crimes after they assume room temperature.

35 posted on 05/06/2008 1:22:16 PM PDT by epow ("A political career brings out the basest qualities in human nature," Lord Bryce)
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To: arthurus

>“Common sense” is not a part of the left culture.<

These days I’m not too sure that “Common sense” is a part of either the left or the right culture.


36 posted on 05/06/2008 1:39:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( If you ever need a gun but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.))
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To: bill1952; mpackard
Thanks for the comments, guys. It seems as though I read at least one article every day in which the (invariably liberal) author defines the causes of Problem “X” in such a way that the only possible solution is more money and more government. Old story, I suppose: when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail.

But it's something more than just a failure of imagination that makes liberals blind to the damage they themselves have done: it's the ideology itself. Liberalism comes complete with its own cocoon: an unshakable faith in the transformative power of Good Intentions, as if the nature of reality can be molded by mere desire. Worse, those who deny such possibility are given the Heretic treatment and castigated as enemies of all that is good. And this is the very spirit that dominates white liberal discussion of the state of our inner cities (especially Detroit, Cleveland, Philly, and Baltimore). Within the (black-governed) cities themselves - corruption and cynicism reign supreme. Unless something changes - and soon - it does not bode well for the future happiness of the inhabitants.

37 posted on 05/07/2008 6:01:26 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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