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Obama did not give back Ayers campaign contribution, either. Nor did he condemn Ayers at that time in 2001 for being unrepentant.

Obama went and met in Ayer's living room when he started running for the Illinois Senate, and Ayers intorduced Obama to the Hyde Park community.

Obama has said that he and Ayers still have a friendly relationship.

BTW, does something like this put Obama's refusal to wear an American flag pin in a new light? I think it does.

1 posted on 05/06/2008 7:42:26 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All

What say you?


2 posted on 05/06/2008 7:43:02 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
He's not stomping on it. He's standing on it.

And he still deserves a punch in the nose for it.

10 posted on 05/06/2008 7:52:42 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is that picture supposed to look artistic?

But then again, America-hating has been all the rage for quite some time.


14 posted on 05/06/2008 7:55:56 AM PDT by hepatoma
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's criticism of his America-hating associates is exactly the same as his expression of love of our country, our culture and our customs...

Guarded and tepid.

I suspect that there are many more such photos of Ayers (and Dohrn), and that Obama has many more such close allies.

The Dem power brokers may soon rue their land rush to Obama.

As current event analysts (like F.R.) continue to reveal Obama's America-hating Marxist/Stalinist/radical inner self, voters of the once-great Democratic party will be repelled away from their America-hating poser in anger and disgust.

18 posted on 05/06/2008 8:06:39 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
BTW, does something like this put Obama's refusal to wear an American flag pin in a new light? I think it does.
  1. Refusal to wear flag pin.
  2. Che flag.
  3. Refusal to at least PRETEND respect to the flag during playing of Star Spangled Banner.
  4. Long, close relationship with a man who preaches "GD America".
  5. Long friendship with a known, unrepentant terrorist who only got off on a legal technicality...and who posed for a post 9/11 pic while desecrating the American flag.

I think we've had the answer to your question for quite a while now.

As for the fact that he didn't condemn Ayers at the time...it's a given that his very first claim will be that he didn't know.

19 posted on 05/06/2008 8:09:23 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama's bus needs a lift kit just to clear all the bodies!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
BTW, does something like this put Obama's refusal to wear an American flag pin in a new light? I think it does.

Actually, if you look at Obama and his wife, they nearly always wear predominately black clothing.

If I understand correctly, that is an expression of solidarity with Black America, and is no different from wearing a flag pin (if a United States that had deep meaning to him).

It plainly doesn't.

21 posted on 05/06/2008 8:12:24 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Mr Ayers needs to be the human urinal freshner sitting at the bottom of a urinal in a NFL stadium bathroom.


22 posted on 05/06/2008 8:14:55 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist


26 posted on 05/06/2008 8:31:37 AM PDT by weegee (Just say NO to Marxism.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The FR thread for the 2001 NYT Article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/525515/posts
28 posted on 05/06/2008 8:38:44 AM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
You know, when I see the picture of this guy standing on the flag of our country, a guy that grew up in a comfortable home, and did what he did, who became what he became, I cannot for the life of me understand why in the living hell he is not at THE very least in jail.

I have a lot more to say, but I would be banned.

Just damn...

33 posted on 05/06/2008 9:41:55 AM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oh my gosh! Another “distraction.” The empty suit (B.O) seems to have a lot of baggage.


35 posted on 05/06/2008 10:37:41 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The relationship between the Obamas and Ayers-Dohrn goes all the way back to 1989, when Barack Obama joined the law firm of Sidley Austin as a summer intern - - his wife Michelle was his summer adviser - - Bernadine Dohrn was Michelle's friend and associate.

Obama's first political "time" was held at Ayer-Dohrn's home.

Obama and Ayers serve together on various boards and committees.

These people have been tight for 20 years.

The Obama File

36 posted on 05/06/2008 10:52:53 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yeah but he’s a respected English professor.


39 posted on 05/06/2008 11:45:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

A few excerpts from the Sept 11, 2001 Bill Ayers-NY Times article...
"During his fugitive years, Mr. Ayers said, he lived in 15 states, taking names of dead babies in cemeteries who were born in the same year as he. He describes the typical safe house: there were usually books by Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh, and Che Guevara's picture in the bedroom; fermented Vietnamese fish sauce in the refrigerator, and live sourdough starter donated by a Native American that was reputed to have passed from hand to hand over a century."

(snip)

"Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as:

'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but 'it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,' he said."

(snip)

"He also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

New York Times, Sept 11, 2001:
"No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

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The following excerpts are from the same August 2001 Chicago Magazine article in which the above flag stomping photo appeared:

"In 1980, Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in. (The first words Ayers's father said to him were, "You need a haircut.") By then they had had two children together, and the bombing conspiracy charge against the couple had been dismissed due to government misconduct.

Dohrn plea-bargained to charges of inciting to mob action and resisting police officers. She was sentenced to three years' probation and a $1,500 fine. Ayers was not charged.
Even then he showed a way with words:

'Guilty as hell, free as a bird--America is a great country,' he said."

(snip)

"'Essentially, you must see the student before you as a locus of energy,' he says. 'He already has a heart, a soul, a mind, interests, and dreams. You need to help him shape those interests, pursue those dreams.' Ayers is distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where two years ago the university named him Senior University Scholar, an award given to outstanding faculty members."

(snip)

"'I think there will be another mass political movement,' he predicts, 'because I believe that the kind of injustice that is built into our world will not go quietly into the night.'"-

Article: No Regrets, Chicago Magazine, August 2001.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/index.php?cp=2&si=1#artanc

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Bill Ayers, April 6, 2008:
"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/

Note: Ayers is very likely quoting Bob Avakian, chairman of the Revolutionary Communist Party, with the phrase 'both possible and necessary' in regards to a communist overthrow of the US government. See these Yahoo search results for "bob avakian" + "possible and necessary"--Eye On The Left

"In July 1969, Dohrn, Eleanor Raskin, Dianne Donghi, Peter Clapp, David Millstone and Diana Oughton, all representing 'Weatherman', as Dohrn's faction was now called, traveled to Cuba and met with representatives of the North Vietnamese and Cuban governments."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

July 27, 1970: The United States Army base at The Presidio in San Francisco is bombed on the 11th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. [NYTimes, 7/27/70] :
Chronology of Weather Underground attacks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events

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42 posted on 05/06/2008 5:22:55 PM PDT by Eye On The Left
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Here's another Amerikkka-hating "friend of Obama."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006110/posts
The Art of Politics ["Obey Obama"]

Shepard Fairey, the artist who designed the official fund-raising set of Obama posters, like this one:

Fairey has a company ("Obey") that produces his own artwork, such as these.
See Fairey's website: http://www.thegiant.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Prints




44 posted on 05/06/2008 10:40:46 PM PDT by Dajjal
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