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EXPELLED! NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED.
WingClips ^

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:48:48 PM PDT by LJayne

There is a movement on the horizon that has the potential to change the educational system in America and influence your kids, you and the youth you serve. For decades now, Neo-Darwinism has maintained a stranglehold within public education, suppressing all other theories on the origins of life—especially those that hint of a "designer".

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TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: benstein; bensteinexpelled; evolution; expelled; intelligentdesign; moviereview; neodarwinism
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To: Coyoteman

I read your post the last time, and disagreed then, and disagree now.

There are two sides, but the liberals have control of the government schools, so only one side is taught.

Evolution is NOT evident; it is junk science.

What a waste of time to teach it in the government schools.

Science has done so much to make our lives better. What good does teaching evolution do. Why not spend more time curing diseases, etc..


81 posted on 05/03/2008 10:21:56 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Jim 0216
Another wonder. Here's a Darwinist, whose flawed theory came into existence about 150 years ago, who calls ID which has been around for centuries, "new and strange." Your history as well as your science is greatly flawed.

ID didn't lie and claim to be a science until creation "science" was removed from the classrooms after the Edwards decision.

Google "cdesign proponentsists" and tell me anyone really thinks ID is science.

Out for the night. I have better things to do. (Saturday is the day I dust my dental floss collection.)

82 posted on 05/03/2008 10:22:08 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Jim 0216

“The truth and the existence of God. It would mean a radical change in their life and world view. This is not a bad thing although their fear is that this is a terrible thing.”

Maybe the fear is that we are shaking their “faith.”


83 posted on 05/03/2008 10:24:06 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Coyoteman
Neither your somewhat rambling answers nor the Edwards decision has provided a cogent rebuttal to ID. It's OK, I'll be patient

Good luck with the dental floss.

84 posted on 05/03/2008 10:28:37 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Coyoteman

Intelligent Design Science: http://www.arn.org/docs/dembski/wd_idtheory.htm

AND

http://acs.ucsd.edu/~idea/irredcomplex.htm


85 posted on 05/03/2008 10:28:38 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Coyoteman
It can't be refuted because it is religious belief, not science. It does not rely on evidence, so it can't be refuted by evidence.

There you go again, ID can't be refuted but its already been refuted.

Your statement is a LIE and you know it. Since you are so interested in ID, why don't you actually learn something about it instead of posting your straw man arguments.

86 posted on 05/04/2008 12:40:05 AM PDT by Tramonto (Huckabee FairTax Huckabee FairTax Huckabee FairTax)
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To: Jim 0216; Coyoteman

Another piece of evidence that ID is possible is that scientists have been able to intelligently design proteins that perform specific functions. There are many examples of plants that are in a small part designed by humans to resist cold weather, drought, produce more food etc. Macro evolution on the other hand, just takes too long to observe in one life time so we don’t have any concrete examples like we do for ID.


87 posted on 05/04/2008 1:01:32 AM PDT by Tramonto (Huckabee FairTax Huckabee FairTax Huckabee FairTax)
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To: philetus

Yes, a clever trick, indeed. I took it as a sign of artificial intelligence.


88 posted on 05/04/2008 3:49:14 AM PDT by TPartyType (Mr. Dobalina, Mr. Bob Dobalina.)
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To: hepatoma

Fast mutation. This does not mean something evolves. It just changes.


89 posted on 05/04/2008 6:24:11 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Coyoteman
I spent six years in grad school, half of which was dedicated to the study of evolution,

So, you have half a degree in evolution?

90 posted on 05/04/2008 6:45:44 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (see FR homepage for Euvolution v0.4.5)
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To: Coyoteman
But the lie is still spread in hope of fooling folks who don't know any better.

But you have said many times that truth doesn't belong in science, so why complain about this?

91 posted on 05/04/2008 6:50:49 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (see FR homepage for Euvolution v0.4.5)
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To: bmwcyle

No. You’re talking about something completely different...or you’re not explaining correctly.

Endogenous retroviruses. Not talking about drug-resistant HIV.


92 posted on 05/04/2008 7:14:11 AM PDT by hepatoma
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To: Tramonto

“Another piece of evidence that ID is possible is that scientists have been able to intelligently design proteins that perform specific functions.”

That’s evidence that intelligent design is possible, not Intelligent Design.

“Macro evolution on the other hand, just takes too long to observe in one life time so we don’t have any concrete examples like we do for ID.”

Please provide evidence for ID. Actual evidence.


93 posted on 05/04/2008 7:14:11 AM PDT by hepatoma
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To: Sun
What a waste of time to teach it in the government schools.

Yes indeed. Can you imagine a bigger waste of Billy's time than forcing him to regurgitate Malthusian dog-eat-dog nonsense, imaginary phylogeny trees, and speculations about monkeys accidentally transforming into chessmasters? Have a look at my FR page and download some of the books, like Hunter's Civic Biology and The ABC of Evolution. What rubbish.

94 posted on 05/04/2008 8:27:08 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (see FR homepage for Euvolution v0.4.5)
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To: TPartyType
Go he her out

But, what does it mean . . .?

Just looks to me like a monkey banging on a keyboard. But what were you expecting? Shakespeare?

95 posted on 05/04/2008 10:13:28 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; floriduh voter

WOW!! You have a very impressive FR page, and what’s up with all of those Darwins and eugenics?

For example, from your page:

“Francis Darwin Darwin Medalist 1912. Cambridge Eugenics Society member.”


96 posted on 05/04/2008 10:49:49 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All

Here’s the trailer for the movie, EXPELLED, No Intelligence Necessary:

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/playground.php

How did life begin in the first place?

And the trailer shows the scientists who were “expelled” for being independent thinkers.


97 posted on 05/04/2008 11:17:15 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

We have a darwinist among us? Arent they for natural selection and only the strong survive if they get their wishes???


98 posted on 05/04/2008 11:54:12 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: BufordP

Good link! Some Freeper has too much time on his hand! HA!


99 posted on 05/04/2008 1:25:32 PM PDT by TPartyType
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To: Redcitizen; LJayne; nmh; philetus; Hot Tabasco; Sun; Taxman; Tramonto

Have you noticed how unassailable intelligent design is? The best those in opposition can do is either launch a personal attack or agree I.D. is irrefutable. Its stand-alone self-evidence is plain for all to see. With a correct understanding, one may use it as the best refutation to evolutionism.

Romans 1:19-20: Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


100 posted on 05/04/2008 9:06:23 PM PDT by Jim W N
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