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From Indus Valley To Coastal Tamil Nadu
The Hindu ^ | 5-2-2008 | TS Subramanian

Posted on 05/02/2008 8:03:44 PM PDT by blam

From Indus Valley to coastal Tamil Nadu

T.S. Subramanian

Strong resemblances between graffiti symbols in Tamil Nadu and the Indus script

Continuity of tradition: Megalithic pots with arrow-work graffiti found at Sembiankandiyur village in Nagapattinam district.

CHENNAI: In recent excavations in Nagapattinam district in Tamil Nadu, megalithic pottery with graffiti symbols that have a strong resemblance to a sign in the Indus script have been found. Indus script expert Iravatham Mahadevan says that what is striking about the arrow-mark graffiti on the megalithic pottery found at Sembiyankandiyur and Melaperumpallam villages is that they are always incised twice and together, just as they are in the Indus script.

The Hindu published on April 27 a report (“Megalithic period pottery found”) on megalithic pottery and urns found at Sembiyankandiyur, along with [in most of the editions] a photograph of three pots with arrow-like graffiti symbols on each pot.

In all the three pots, the arrow-like symbol appeared two times each and next to each other.

The Tamil Nadu Archaeology Department found these pots during excavations at Sembiyankandiyur between February and April 2008 after a school teacher, V. Shanmuganathan, unearthed a polished neolithic axe from the garden of his house at Sembiyankandiyur in 2006. The axe had engravings that resembled the Indus script.

In May 2007, the Department found several pots at Melaperumpallam near Poompuhar during a trial excavation. Some of these had the same arrow-like symbol occurring twice on them, and always adjacent to each other.

According to Mr. Mahadevan, seals unearthed at Mohenjodaro (now in Pakistan) in the 1920s have similar arrow-like signs that also occur twice and always together. There are several seals with the Indus script and engravings of a bull or a unicorn where the arrow-like sign always occurs in pairs.

While the megalithic/Iron Age pottery in Tamil Nadu is datable between the third century B.C. and third century A.D., the Indus script belongs to the period 2600 B.C. to 1900 B.C. of the mature Harappan period.

“In spite of the enormous gap in time and space between the Indus civilisation sites and [the] Tamil Nadu [sites], it appears that the megalithic graffiti of Tamil Nadu have continued the tradition of the Indus script,” Mr. Mahadevan said.

“Despite a slight difference in the graphic of the arrow-like symbol found on the megalithic pottery of Tamil Nadu and the sign in the Indus script, the fact is that they always occur in double and together. So this requires further study and investigation.”

In 1960, B.B. Lal, former Director General of the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI), wrote a paper in the publication Ancient India brought out by the ASI, with a photographic catalogue of the megalithic and chalcolithic pottery with graffiti marks and comparing them with the signs of the Indus script. “Since then, many more examples of pottery with graffiti marks that have a strong resemblance to the Indus signs have been found at Sanur near Tindivanam in Tamil Nadu and Musiri (Pattanam) in Kerala,” Mr. Mahadevan said.

Particularly significant was a large megalithic terracotta plate found at Sulur near Coimbatore, with symbols closely resembling an inscription on a tablet found at Harappa, which is also in Pakistan now. Hence, “there is distinct possibility that the megalithic symbols and the corresponding signs of the Indus script have the same significance and meaning,” he said. (The terracotta plate from Sulur is on display at the British Museum in London).

In his paper, “A megalithic pottery inscription and a Harappa tablet: a case of extraordinary resemblance,” published in the Journal of Tamil Studies, Volume No.71, June 2007, Mr. Mahadevan said: “I suggest that close resemblances are possible only if the south Indian megalithic script is related to the Indus script. Further, the common sequence found on the Sulur dish and the Harappa tablet may indicate that the languages of the two inscriptions are related to each other.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chalcolithic; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; harappan; helixmakemineadouble; indus; indusvalley; melaperumpallam; mohenjodaro; nadu; tamil; tamilnadu; valley

1 posted on 05/02/2008 8:03:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; TXnMA
GGG Ping.

We've posted about these pots before but not how the 'graffiti' may resemble Indus Script. Here's the previous posting:

Megalithic Period Pottery Found

2 posted on 05/02/2008 8:08:26 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Not too surprising. I’m convinced that the Tamils and other Dravidians are the true heirs of the Indus Valley civilisation. The was no “One India”, no matter how much David Fraudley and the Brahmins wish there were.


3 posted on 05/02/2008 8:17:09 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: blam

could have sworn we had one about this. Haven’t yet found it. :’)

Tamil Brahmi script in Egypt
Hindu.com | 21 Nov 2007 | Hindu.com
Posted on 12/03/2007 7:47:12 AM PST by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933979/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321591/posts?page=20#20

Tamil Brahmi Script In Egypt
The Hindu
Posted on 12/03/2007 2:33:18 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1934148/posts

-oldie-

Decoding DISCOVERY from the much-elusive Indus Valley script!
The Times of India | Wednesday, June 19, 2002 | Editorial Staff
Posted on 06/28/2002 5:59:32 PM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/707973/posts


4 posted on 05/02/2008 8:33:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: blam

aha, this is what I remember:

Significance of Mayiladuthurai find —
Links between Harappa and Neolithic Tamil Nadu
The Hindu | May 01, 2006 | T.S. Subramanian
Posted on 04/30/2006 3:01:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1624277/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/indus/index


5 posted on 05/02/2008 8:35:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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6 posted on 05/02/2008 8:37:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Geez! Don’t you EVER sleep?


7 posted on 05/02/2008 8:39:58 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( If your time ain't come, not even a doctor can kill you.)
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I’m sleepin’ right now...


8 posted on 05/02/2008 9:07:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

I should have known...;o]


9 posted on 05/02/2008 9:24:15 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( If your time ain't come, not even a doctor can kill you.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv
Thanks for the follow-up ping!

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On an earlier thread (with the same photo) I wrote:

"I'm sometimes amazed and amused at the sorts of things that excite fellow archaeologists... "

I think I'll revise that to read:

"I'm sometimes amazed and amused at how small a clue can lead to significant archaeological discoveries... "

10 posted on 05/03/2008 7:36:34 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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