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1 posted on 05/02/2008 11:04:35 AM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
RIP GOP



Long live the American Conservative Party.

2 posted on 05/02/2008 11:13:16 AM PDT by retr0 (He who argues with a fool is an even greater fool.)
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To: The_Republican

It would help if we didn’t have a RINO running on our ticket. Having said that, look on the bright side, if Mr. RINO gets elected, we won’t owe him anything.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 11:15:48 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: The_Republican

What I think this analysis ignores is that the Republican National Organization has been losing its core constituents due its failure to adhere to the core values of the past. The current incumbent in the White House, with a few exceptions, does not represent the views of conservative Americans - the core base of Republican voters.

More long term Republicans like this writer - who are basically conservative, traditional Americans no longer feel the Repubulican National Leadership values their votes or their views. We feel that, instead, it is targeting its messages towards the constituency best represented in the past by the Democrats - the socialists and globalists.

The Republican Party desserves to die a quick death. I havew done my part by consigning letters seeking contributions to the circular file. The McCain nomination is its swan song. Even if McCain manages to beat Hillary or Obama, I believe more conservative, traditional Americans will be looking for another political party to represent them in future elections.

I’m not sure the data this organization has compiled accurately reflects the conclusions they are drawing.


6 posted on 05/02/2008 11:20:15 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: The_Republican

Four years ago the net was full of articles showing how demographic trends would ensure GOP predominance for decades. Now suddenly the base is shrinking.


7 posted on 05/02/2008 11:28:36 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: The_Republican
Married white Christians now make up less than half of all voters in the United States

but is probably the single largest voting block for the category...whatever the hell the category is.
8 posted on 05/02/2008 11:29:40 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: The_Republican

God Bless John Wayne and Ronald Reagan.
They’re dead and I’m not feeling so good myself. :o)


10 posted on 05/02/2008 11:38:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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I believe it when the RNC leadership and more and more elected representatives’ base shifts from Conservatives Republicans to Moderate Democrats.
11 posted on 05/02/2008 11:39:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: The_Republican

bookmark


15 posted on 05/02/2008 12:04:40 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: The_Republican

So from what this analysis is saying is that marriage and Christianity are in decline, but mainly around the borders of people with values. Republicans are staying married, and keeping Christian values/religion, while the rest of the country is in major decline thanks to the media, judicial system, and public education system.

The periphery of married Christians without much core values (as evidenced by their voting Democrat), are abandoning Christianity and marriage altogether.


16 posted on 05/02/2008 12:31:11 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: The_Republican

I didn’t realize that as non-Christian in a mixed-raced marriage I couldn’t be a republican. Good thing this article set me straight. I’ll go change my registration this afternoon.


17 posted on 05/02/2008 12:36:13 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: The_Republican

A technological society inherently produces surplus wealth and free time for its citizens. With the range of choices/situations and dynamic social mobility implicit within that realm, one will tend to adopt a world view/interpretive framework that reflects movement, free association, risk taking, exploration, upgrade and version 2.0. Conservatism will necessarily have a hard time in that milieu.

What surprises me is that conservatism has done precious little to understand the effect of technology upon society other than in terms of industrial processes and profit and loss. With technology driven free time and free cognition, the citizen is able to model ideal personal, and, by extension, societal futures as never before in human history. Planning for a new home, new car, new whatever, is second nature to Americans. The ability to model ideal futures combined with instant global high resolution (compared to the telegraph or drum) communication, modifies our concept of the universal good in real ways, ways that make us see mass suffering as needless, given our ability to produce food, clothing, shelter and surplus wealth. This creates dissatisfaction with the status quo which appears to be doing nothing to alleviate percieved suffering in all corners of the world.

Conservatives had better learn to understand that status quo is not acceptable when there is suffering. If your neighbor suffers, see to his aid or gird for battle. Status quo axiomatically does not work with suffering, it only works with pleasure. Pretty basic stuff. This is a Christian message.


18 posted on 05/02/2008 12:41:40 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: The_Republican
increasing racial diversity, declining rates of marriage, and changes in religious beliefs

If it's 1950s levels of whiteness, marriage, and Christianity that produce conservative victories, why did those demographics elect FDR four times between 1932 and 1944? Why did those demos then produce a half-century Democratic majority in Congress?

Conversely, why did the Democratic candidates of 2006 have to pretend to be conservative in order to get a Congressional majority back? Why did "Burkha" Pelosi's attempts to impose border amnesty and withdraw from Iraq not even make it to the House floor?

The point is, demographics are one straw in the wind, but apparently, they don't express everything going on in voters' heads. For example, I'd guess that these days, there are a lot of people who aren't married, yet who believe in "married" values, both foreign and domestic. First of all, there are adults who are unmarried because they haven't found a spouse who is conservative enough.

Secondly, with our courts promoting involuntary, no-fault divorce, many people wind up divorced who have not converted to the "lifestyle" of divorce—which has in the past been associated with moral liberalism and political Leftism. For many divorced folks (including a few friends of ours), the experience radicalizes them against the culture of divorce, not against the institution of marriage. You'd have to pry their Limbaugh Letter subscriptions from their cold, dead fingers.

The "Married" category is just one of those mentioned where a complicated reality lies underneath. Now or in the future, being non-Christian or non-white may no longer be as strongly associated with voting Democrat. I'll bet you a Bobby Jindal button on that.

19 posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:12 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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I completely agree the country has gone far too left and unless we allow one of their “demons” to be in charge, they will NEVER see the evil these “people” truly represent.

We can recover from 4 years of hill (if she even lasts that long. That woman can’t obey nor uphold ANY law).

2012 will be the YEAR CONSERVATIVES CAME BACK.

That’s right, I said came back. Look how many people on FR are too afraid of hill that they are willing to sell their souls (actually, they say “hold their nose”)because they vote from fear.


23 posted on 05/02/2008 3:02:15 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: The_Republican

This is just the most recent attempt by the GOP to use propaganda to convince conservatives that they must vote for McAmnesty.

As for me, my principles are still intact and I intend to honor them by writing in the name of a conservative for President and doing my best to see that actual conservatives are elected in downstream races.


25 posted on 05/02/2008 3:44:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: The_Republican

The Rockefeller/Danforth/Snowe/McCain/Martinez/Whitman pubbies must be celebrating.


27 posted on 05/02/2008 4:12:32 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: The_Republican

“Discussions of the current political situation and comparisons between the 2008 election and earlier contests frequently overlook a crucial fact. As a result of changes in American society, today’s electorate is very different from the electorate of twenty, thirty, or forty years ago”

I didn’t “overlook” these facts, in some previous postings to FR.
A sample:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1952509/posts?page=33#33

- John


28 posted on 05/02/2008 8:05:40 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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