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United Methodist Church formally declares political mission, rejects salvation mission
United Methodist Church General Conference in Fort Worth ^ | 29 April 2008 | United Methodist Church, General Confer

Posted on 04/30/2008 7:05:29 AM PDT by mbarker12474

Yesterday, 29 April 2008, at 3:32 PM, the United Methodist Church formally and explicitely rejected it's long held and Biblically-based mission to make disciples of Christ by saving souls, and declared officially that its mission is to transform the world. This codifies in the Book of Discipline of the UMC, its book of law, what was already the de facto case in practice.

Here's the new text:

The mission of the Church is to make disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world.

Here's the previous text:

The mission of the Church is to make disciples of Jesus Christ.

Here's a rejected amendment:

The mission of the Church is to make disciples of Jesus Christ for the salvation of souls and the transformation of the world.

http://calms.umc.org/2008/Menu.aspx?type=Petition&mode=Single&number=271

Legislation Tracking Petition Search Calendar Search Plenary Action Petition 80271 << Back Mission of the UMC (80271-FO-¶120) Petition Status: Calendar Item Petition Text: Submitted Text ADCA p. 917 References: Book of Discipline: ¶120 Committee: Faith and Order Financial Implications: No Submitted by: Council of Bishops (General Agency) Ernest S. Lyght Washington, DC, USA Task Force to Study the Episcopacy Carolyn Briscoe Washington, DC, USA

Calendar Item Status << Back Mission of the UMC (FO1-¶120-A) Calendar Item Status: Committee Voted (Printed in DCA p. 2049) Calendar Item No: 171 Petitions on Calendar: 80271 Consent Calendar: Not assigned to a Consent Calendar. Committee Motion: Recommendation to Adopt Committee Vote: For: 48 Against: 22 Not Voting: 0

Vote Date and Time: 4/25/2008 8:16 PM Legislative Committee Report: The Petition is Adopted As Submitted. Click here to view full text

Plenary Action Status << Back Last Vote Action: Vote on Main Motion This motion was Adopted, with 776 votes for and 102 votes against. Plenary Motions: 4/29/2008 3:23 PM Amend the Main Motion REJECTED 295-548 Amend discipline ¶120

At the end of the first paragraph bolded statement "for the transformation of the world..."

Add "through sharing and living out the Gospel".

4/29/2008 3:31 PM Amend the Main Motion REJECTED 193-690 Add bolded text -

for the salvation of souls and the transformation of the world....

4/29/2008 3:32 PM Vote on Main Motion ADOPTED 776-102


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: falseprophets; gramsci; greatcommission; methodist; religiousleft; socialgospel; spiritualwarfare; umc; unitedmethodist
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1 posted on 04/30/2008 7:05:29 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

It’s liberation theology.....and completely OFF THE MARK for Christians.


2 posted on 04/30/2008 7:07:51 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: mbarker12474

Surprisingly blatant. It’s amazing that the compromise language was rejected by what is presumably a majority.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 7:08:10 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: mbarker12474
Already left. I had a pastor whose sermons were 90% political. Very leftwing.

Interestingly enough, she made it clear that she would not visit sick parishioners -- they "brough her down". But, you know, she cared deeply about humanity. Especially homosexuals. She was very big on homosexual marriage.

4 posted on 04/30/2008 7:08:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: xzins

Your perspective?


5 posted on 04/30/2008 7:10:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: mbarker12474

A denomination that is dying continues to drink hemlock.


6 posted on 04/30/2008 7:10:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mbarker12474

My Mother in Law was a lifelong Methodist for over 80 years.

After a gaggle of lesbian pseudo ministers and left wing ministers, she stopped going to the church where she had attended since her birth and had worked in and for over the decadees.

She did not want her funeral in the Church, nor was a Methodist Minister invited to do her funeral service. Her family abided by her wishes and the funeral was held in a funeral home 7 miles away from her former church with a Baptist Minister in charge of her funeral.


7 posted on 04/30/2008 7:11:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: mbarker12474

By this it is abundantly clear that they are no longer a religious organization, but a political one.

The IRS should ensure that their tax compliance reflects this.

Their parishoners should understand that they are no longer receiving sermons, but rather policy statements.

No true religious organization should take them seriously ever again.


8 posted on 04/30/2008 7:13:53 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: mbarker12474
Looks like people have confused the two kingdoms. God came to save souls, while governments are here to keep law and order. Perfection is only in heaven; earth can never obtain a utopia or perfection.
9 posted on 04/30/2008 7:14:02 AM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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To: mbarker12474
They are declaring their apostasy. Come out from among them...

Seriously, anyone remaining in the UMC is putting their soul at risk.

I keep joking with my wife that before this is done, we're all going to be Catholic again. Liberals are destroying every mainline denomination.

10 posted on 04/30/2008 7:15:53 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: mbarker12474

I hope we don’t see any Freepers defending this.


11 posted on 04/30/2008 7:16:38 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

My perspective is as I stated in the post: The UMC codified what it already believes and practices. It believes Jesus was a socio-political figure, and his mission was to make changes based on class divisions and worldly human interests. It rejects, as an institution if not in every local church, the notions of a supernatural God and Christ and salvation of souls.

Mark Tooley suggests the UMC is beginning a slow turn to the right. Perhaps.

In the mean time, this is a last straw for me personally. I will now try to distinguish (much more carefully) church activities that support the institution of the UMC church from those that strengthen the catholic body of Christ and personal faith. And more carfully avoid all acts and givings that support the institution, including support of the professional clergy, property growth, church plants, etc. I will in some form renounce my membership. And continue to do what little I can to bring folks to Christ and strengthen the catholic Christian church universal.


12 posted on 04/30/2008 7:20:46 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (United Methodist Church: Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Legs, Open to Anything)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

My thoughts exactly. The UMC, and churches that follow suit, should be stripped of their tax-exempt status.


13 posted on 04/30/2008 7:23:14 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: mbarker12474

A few years back, I was invited to and attended a 150 year celebration of a Methodist Church of which my great great grandfather was one of the founders. It pains me to see how far the Methodist has veered from a course that was an important part of my ancestors spiritual lives. The Methodist Church has never been a part of my adult life and this article is no surprise but that makes it no less painful.


14 posted on 04/30/2008 7:23:31 AM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, your Uncle Jeremiah is speaking now, Barry can you hear him, Barry what you say now.)
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To: Boagenes
I keep joking with my wife that before this is done, we're all going to be Catholic again. Liberals are destroying every mainline denomination.

Liberals have had too much influence with Catholicism as well but the Pope is not one of them and they will never destroy it [the Church]. Come on over.

15 posted on 04/30/2008 7:24:08 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Apple Blossom

ping


16 posted on 04/30/2008 7:25:26 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: mbarker12474

It’s about time that we all recognize the anti-denominational nature of the body of Christ.


17 posted on 04/30/2008 7:27:22 AM PDT by jkl1122
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To: Boagenes

Liberals are destroying every mainline denomination.


Method in the madness?

18 posted on 04/30/2008 7:30:32 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: mbarker12474
Do we have to sing, "We can change the World" but Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young at church now? /sarcasm

Only Jesus can save the world. Christians that want to play God are dangerous.

19 posted on 04/30/2008 7:34:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: EdReform

It seems to me that what they have is neither a religion nor a political party. They’ve actually got the worst of both worlds. It’s a Political Cult: a social agenda without hope and spirituality, a baseless and forlorn ethic.

I can’t think of anything more meaningless or pointless than that.


20 posted on 04/30/2008 7:35:51 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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