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Scholars Run Down More Cluels to Abiding Holocaust Mystery [Fate of Raoul Wallenberg]
Yahoo! News ^ | April, 28, 2008 | Arthur Max and Randy Herschaft (AP)

Posted on 04/28/2008 8:36:32 PM PDT by justiceseeker93

STOCKHOLM, Sweden - Budapest, November 1944: Another German train has loaded its cargo of Jews bound for Auschwitz. A young Swedish diplomat pushes past the SS guard and scrambles onto the roof of the cattle car.

Ignoring shots fired over his head, he reaches through the open door to outstretched hands, passing out dozens of bogus "passports" that extended Sweden's protection to the bearers. He orders everyone with a document off the train and into his caravan of vehicles. The guards look on dumfounded.

Raoul Wallenberg was a minor official of a neutral country, with an unimposing appearance and a gentle manner. Recruited and financed by the U. S., he went to Hungary to save Jews. He bullied, bluffed, and bribed powerful Nazis to prevent the deportation of 20,000 to concentration camps and avert the massacre of 70,000 more in Budapest's Jewish ghetto.

Then, on Jan. 17, 1945, days after Soviet troops moved into Budapest, the 32-year-old Wallenberg and his Hugarian driver, Vilmos Longfelder, drove off with a Russian security escort, and vanished forever.

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But researchers still wrestle with two enduring mysteries: Why was Wallenberg arrested, and did he really die in Soviet custody in 1947?

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; holocaust; raoulwallenberg; sovietunion; worldwarii
Doesn't seem to be much new here, except for hope of release of important documents soon. Still, a fascinating story, as yet incomplete.
1 posted on 04/28/2008 8:36:32 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Ping!


2 posted on 04/28/2008 8:47:04 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

A BTT for a story I’d love to know the ending to. It may be one of super-secret agencies or it may simply be that people were shot for some very slim reasons in 1947 or even no reason at all. There was a lot of it going around. BTT.


3 posted on 04/28/2008 8:51:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: justiceseeker93
Whatever any of this reveals, a 1979 State Department memo put the questions into perspective: "Whether or not Wallenberg was involved in espionage during World War II is a moot point at this stage in history. His obvious humanitarian acts certainly outweigh any conceivable 'spy' mission he may have been on."

It would take a member of the Carter State Department to view espionage as something that needed to be outweighed by humanitarian acts, rather than a noble calling.

4 posted on 04/28/2008 9:01:45 PM PDT by LouD
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To: LouD

Did the US ever officially admit to Wallenberg being an American agent?


5 posted on 04/28/2008 9:06:17 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

The answer is in the Soviet files.... some of which are now open and available to the public. But it’d probably be a massive amt. of research to dig through those files.


6 posted on 04/28/2008 9:20:00 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Thanks justiceseeker93. Years ago, 60 Minutes had a story (Mike Wallace reporting, if memory serves) regarding RW’s kidnapping by the Red Army. The troops who took him into custody were commanded by Leonid Breschnev.


7 posted on 04/28/2008 9:48:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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8 posted on 04/28/2008 9:48:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: justiceseeker93
The Russians concluded that "Wallenberg died, or most likely was killed, on July 17, 1947," and said they considered the case "resolved."

I'm sure today the Russians would say, "Who's Wallenberg?"

9 posted on 04/28/2008 9:55:00 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid do)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

You are probably right. I have always thought this was an interesting mystery. I did at some point read that the post WWII KGB guy in Warsaw was Leonid Brezhnev which might explain why he was not released if he lived into the 1960s or 1970s.

Wikipedia says about Brezhnev, “At the end of the war in Europe Brezhnev was chief political commissar of the 4th Ukrainian Front which entered Prague after the German surrender.”


10 posted on 04/28/2008 10:36:37 PM PDT by JLS
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To: LouD

You beat me to it.

Espionage against our enemies who are sworn to destroy us and our way of life is a legitimate role of government, as opposed to, say, creating make-work jobs for social scientists in the Department of Education.


11 posted on 04/28/2008 11:59:31 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: justiceseeker93

Interesting, that there was a secret group like the OSS, called The Pond.

I’ve never heard of that. I’m reading about Intrepid, the guy who set up the OSS-MI6 liason during WWII, and it doesn’t say anything about The Pond.

Ed


12 posted on 04/29/2008 12:57:40 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Roy Tucker

The Russians were our supposed allies, but we let them spit in our face every chance they got. Then we gave them half of Europe.


13 posted on 04/29/2008 1:19:30 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: justiceseeker93

Google search brought this up - lots in this article -
http://thespyreport.livejournal.com/155262.html


14 posted on 04/29/2008 4:31:56 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth
Yes, the article I posted to begin this thread (from Yahoo!) is merely an abridged version of the link you posted at # 14. Much thanks for your link.

The unabridged article goes into much more detail of the history of the search for Wallenberg's fate, but there seems to be no new information.

I knew that he had been educated in the US, but I wasn't aware of the fact that he had American relatives.

15 posted on 04/29/2008 6:58:11 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Sir_Ed

The existence of “The Pond,” the group that reported directly to FDR, might explain how the Soviets were tipped off about Wallenberg’s activities in Budapest. We now know that during this period the Soviets had agents planted very close to FDR himself - people like Alger Hiss and Harry Dexter White.


16 posted on 04/29/2008 7:09:57 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Yes, a fascinating story justiceseeker93.

The late Tom Lantos, Hungarian-born congressman of California who passed away last February, credited Wallenberg for spiriting him out of Budapest during WWII. As a Jew, more than likely, Lantos otherwise would have wound up on a cattle car headed for a liquidation camp....

Thank you so much for posting this, justiceseeker93! I hope the mystery of Wallenberg's fate will be cleared up in due course.

17 posted on 04/29/2008 7:15:38 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: justiceseeker93

Had you heard of “The Pond” beforez?

Ed


18 posted on 04/29/2008 10:52:34 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

No, never heard of it, but by reporting directly to FDR, they were probably taking more of a risk with the Soviets than going through “normal” intelligence channels.


19 posted on 04/29/2008 11:04:46 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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ping


20 posted on 05/03/2008 12:44:31 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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