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31 of 53 teen girls at FLDS ranch are pregnant or had baby
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Posted on 04/28/2008 5:27:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

31 of 53 teen girls at FLDS ranch are pregnant or had baby

By MICHELLE ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer 2 minutes ago

More than half the teen girls taken from a polygamist compound in west Texas have children or are pregnant, state officials said Monday.

A total of 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 are in state custody after a raid 3 1/2 weeks ago at the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado. Of those girls, 31 either have children or are pregnant, said Child Protective Services spokesman Darrell Azar. Two are pregnant now, CPS officials have said in court; it was unclear whether either of those two already have children.

"It shows you a pretty distinct pattern, that it was pretty pervasive," he said.

State officials took custody of all 463 children at the ranch controlled by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, saying a pattern of teen girls forced into underage "spiritual" marriages and sex with much older men created an unsafe environment for the sect's children.

Under Texas law, children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult. A girl can get married with parental permission at 16, but none of these girls is believed to have a legal marriage under state law.

State officials said earlier that they had found girls who were pregnant or had children of their own at the ranch, but they had not provided more than rough estimates until Monday.

Church officials have denied that any children were abused at the ranch and say the state's actions are a form of religious persecution.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; polygamy; teens; yfz
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1 posted on 04/28/2008 5:27:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
How do these statistics differ from some of the Democrat-stronghold inner cities?

...because I don't see the same rush in the inner cities to separate mothers from their children.

No cheers unfortunately, no winners here.

2 posted on 04/28/2008 5:31:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

It is the babies who are being punished.


3 posted on 04/28/2008 5:33:23 PM PDT by Excellence (Daughter of the American Revolution, niece of the Civil War (North).)
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To: grey_whiskers
Isn't moral equivalence a liberal tactic?

This was not teenagers acting irresponsibly; it was an ongoing conspiracy to commit aggravated sexual assault on a child and welfare fraud.

4 posted on 04/28/2008 5:34:59 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Sub-Driver

Those women are so unsexy, it would be like violating Laura Ingalls. Man, between burkahs on Muslims and these weirdo clothes, I am all for skimpy clothing on chicks after this!


5 posted on 04/28/2008 5:37:09 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Barack Obama's supporters are mindless sheep)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sick stuff.

I hope this becomes a trend and more of these cults are busted up.

6 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: grey_whiskers

Except that inner city females don’t all live on one ranch do they.


7 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:25 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: allmendream; Mr. Silverback; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Jay777

Horribly true, whereas Planned Parenthood is mass statutory rape by proxy, with an optional murder chaser.


8 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:38 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: grey_whiskers

These statistics differ because the innercity girls are usually pregnant by their near-the-same-age boyfriends, and the normally entered willingly into the sex.

The FLDS girls were bred and brainwashed to be child brides to men old enough to be their fathers and grandfathers. They are given no option (except damnation).

That said I believe we should vigorously prosecute the statutory rapists of the inner city girls.


9 posted on 04/28/2008 5:43:36 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: humblegunner

I do too. I have wondered if anyone will go after the other compounds if there is no DNA to match some of these children. I hope the FLDS goes down hard!


10 posted on 04/28/2008 5:43:37 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot............OUT .. Keep it Sweet My Arse!)
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To: grey_whiskers

I believe that most of the inner-city baby-daddys are similar in age to the baby-mama. Not 40 and 50 year-old-men.


11 posted on 04/28/2008 5:44:56 PM PDT by georgiagirl_pam
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To: pandoraou812

I hope they take the Muslims down if they do anyone.


12 posted on 04/28/2008 5:45:00 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Ingtar

I totally agree with that & hope they take the Muslims down hard too. They are vile also IMHO.


13 posted on 04/28/2008 5:47:34 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot............OUT .. Keep it Sweet My Arse!)
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To: Marie2

innercity girls are usually pregnant by their near-the-same-age boyfriends,

What planet you on?


14 posted on 04/28/2008 5:51:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Sub-Driver
Church officials have denied that any children were abused at the ranch and say the state's actions are a form of religious persecution.

Get one of those perverts near me and I'll show him some freaking persecution. I really REALLY feel sorry for those girls. And it pisses me off that their mothers (and I'm assuming their mothers are there too) would let that happen. I can guarantee you that if some 50 year old jerkoff started leering at my daughter he'd get an earful.

15 posted on 04/28/2008 5:53:02 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/peoples-information-support-team/ -JOIN US!-We're PIST!)
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To: humblegunner

Other than this Colorado City/ FYZ ranch crowd, what communities do you have in mind that promote these early “marriages”?


16 posted on 04/28/2008 5:53:18 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Will the AmericanHating Rev Wright be Barack Hussein Obama's ambassador to Iran?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wait a minute. The article said “Two of those are pregnant now, he said; it was unclear whether either of those two already have children.” Unclear? They don’t know? Are the pregnant girls 14 or 17?

Sorry, but a 17 year old girl is NOT A CHILD. It’s different if she is 14 or 15, but they make no provisions for the difference in age. That’s only one of the problems with the socialist totalitarian methods going on here. I was a 17 year old (married) mother over 50 years ago. What did I do, break some damn law? Nobody thought so.

There is a serious issue of child abuse here, as most of us can see, but the government agents of all stripes handling it are committing serious abuses of rights themselves. The frenzied media is throwing stuff at us that we don’t know is right, and their agenda is succeeding. Most people are falling right in line. Which of our churches or religious groups is going to be next? Do we care about the precedents being set? We’d better.


17 posted on 04/28/2008 5:55:43 PM PDT by CatDancer (Tagline temporarily suspended for cause)
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To: Sub-Driver
Under Texas law, children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult. A girl can get married with parental permission at 16, but none of these girls is believed to have a legal marriage under state law.

It would be interesting if any are legally married since Texas recently raised the legal age from 14 to 16.

18 posted on 04/28/2008 5:56:05 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Will the AmericanHating Rev Wright be Barack Hussein Obama's ambassador to Iran?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Muslims, inner city, FLDS all on welfare.

Any connection?

Naw..


19 posted on 04/28/2008 5:56:32 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: CatDancer

If the US had kept the Mexico it conquered in 1848, I wonder if 13 would be considered age of consent as it is there today?


20 posted on 04/28/2008 5:59:25 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Will the AmericanHating Rev Wright be Barack Hussein Obama's ambassador to Iran?)
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