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Culture shock: Seized polygamous sect kids face tough adjustment (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread)
Salt Lake Tribune ^
| 04/24/2008 07:32:33 AM MDT
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Posted on 04/24/2008 7:31:28 AM PDT by MizSterious
Culture shock: Seized polygamous sect kids face tough adjustment
The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 04/24/2008 07:32:33 AM MDT
Posted: 7:33 AM- SAN ANGELO, Texas - The hundreds of children from a polygamist compound taken into state custody are on their way to group homes, shelters and residences, but experts and lawyers fear their transition may be much harder than it is for other foster children.
The 437 children taken from the compound in West Texas will be plunged into a culture radically different from the community where they and their families shunned the outside world as a hostile, contaminating influence on their godly way of life.
Many of the children have seen little or no television. They have been essentially home-schooled all their lives. Most were raised on garden-grown vegetables and twice-daily prayers with family. They frolic in long dresses and buttoned-up shirts from another century.
(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; fldsdailythread; hemanmormonhaters; polygamy; sanangelo; yfz
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This is the first of the fLDS/YFZ daily threads--in the future, each one will have links to the past threads. We thought we'd give this format a try in an effort to consolidate the massive amounts of information, currently scattered all over FR.
Just for the sake of orderliness (and to prevent the pulling of threads and/or messages), let's do try to stay on topic and polite.
To: greyfoxx39; Politicalmom
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:32:16 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: MizSterious
“They are a throwback to the 19th century in how they dress and how they behave.”
That’s a good thing isn’t it?
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:32:42 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: colorcountry
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:37:12 AM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
To: MizSterious
It is always a good thing when the government decides to remove kids from their family so they can be instructed to become worshipers of the state and the all knowing, smiling, big sister. Where is Janette Reno when her help is needed?
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:37:13 AM PDT
by
Neoliberalnot
((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
To: All
Officials say 47 children from polygamist group coming to Waco’s Methodist Children’s Home
Thursday, April 24, 2008
By Emily Ingram
Tribune-Herald staff writer
Officials at Wacos Methodist Childrens Home revealed Wednesday that they will get 47 children from a West Texas polygamist sect within the next 48 hours.
Child Protective Services officials alerted childrens home President and CEO Bobby Gilliam about the move Wednesday, he said during an afternoon press conference.
The announcement came a few hours after Texas authorities said they had finished taking DNA samples from all the children housed at the San Angelo Coliseum since being removed from a polygamist compound more than two weeks ago. Child welfare officials are trying to sort out the complicated family relationships at the ranch compound of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
http://www.wacotrib.com/services/content/news/stories/2008/04/24/04242008wacpolygamist.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=11
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:37:23 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: BenLurkin
Thats a good thing isnt it?Not necessarily. The 19th century wasn't an Eden.
Few idealizers of the 1850s would voluntarily subject themselves to 1850s standards of medical care.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:37:54 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: Neoliberalnot
so they can be instructed to become worshipers of the state How does this instruction work? Is there a standard text?
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:38:53 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: wideawake
Few idealizers of the 1850s would voluntarily subject themselves to 1850s standards of medical care. And then there's those "out houses". ;-)
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:39:07 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: Neoliberalnot
It is also always a good thing when the government decides to remove kids from their family when the polygamist sect that they belong to routinely abandons its boys and then facilitates rape and forced marriages to dirty old men against the girls.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:39:31 AM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
To: All
3 Local Facilities To Get Polygamist Sect Children
POSTED: 7:52 am CDT April 24, 2008
UPDATED: 8:11 am CDT April 24, 2008
HOUSTON — Three Houston-area facilities will soon be temporary homes for dozens of children removed from the polygamist sect in west Texas, KPRC Local 2 reported Thursday.
Thirty-six children will live at Kidz Harbor in Liverpool, Texas, in Brazoria County.
“I think it’s a place where the kids will feel safe,” Liverpool Police Chief Myles Hopkins said. “They community will also embrace their arrival.”
Up to 16 children could soon temporarily call a Hockley facility home.
There’s an unassuming sign out front that reads “Boys and Girls Country.” The driveway back to the foster care compound is a few miles off Highway 290, surrounded by fields.
“Our first priority is to welcome a child in a warm way,” Executive Director Shirley Wright said.
The staff and volunteers have been getting ready, folding towels, putting backpacks by each empty bed and writing welcoming notes.
“If we know what their favorite food is, we’ll be baking it in the oven,” Wright said.
More at: http://www.click2houston.com/news/15976852/detail.html
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:40:14 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: All
CASA Volunteers Called On To Help Sect Children
Reported by: Kristina De Leon
Email: KristinaDeLeon@woai.com
Last Update: 8:44 am
Child Advocates of San Antonio, or “CASA”, has gotten word that its services will be needed in the child custody case involving hundreds of children from a West Texas polygamist compound.
Dozens of volunteers, people who stand up for abused children in court, will meet with a child at least once a month.
The volunteers will first go through training on how to handle the children in a way that respects their unique religion.
“Texas CASA, our state affiliate, is really going to be helping and guiding us through this process,” said Janet Ketcham of CASA. “So there will be a protocol for visits we will hopefully understand more about the sect to make sure to, again, respect the children.”
CASA says it needs volunteers now more than ever. If you are interested in becoming one, click here:
More at: http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=75b48fb6-cb59-43d3-900e-b34eca020bd1&rss=68
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:43:57 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...
Ping to a NEW Daily Thread on the FLDS
Metmom, a good place to post your links if you like.
Mizsterious, thanks for starting this.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:46:06 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
To: MizSterious
A methodist church in my area is expecting to get 100 of the children for up to three years. I went to the meeting because they needed people to take training so they can work with these kids. I wanted to help as I have 6 of my own kids and my heart breaks for these children. The first hour was spent converting everyone to the cause the next 2 hours were spent teaching us how to convert these children to this particular churches beliefs. I am sick to my stomach, I do not agree with what has been going on in there in any way. But that meeting was disgusting.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:47:12 AM PDT
by
TriGirl
(Lurking for 7 years!!!!!)
To: wideawake
“Few idealizers of the 1850s.....”
The fans of “Little House” and “Dr Quinn” haven’t gotten rid of their washing machines and electricity!
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:49:28 AM PDT
by
fishtank
(Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
To: wideawake
Few idealizers of the 1850s would voluntarily subject themselves to 1850s standards of medical care. Who is idealizing 1850s medical care? I think the comment was saying that modest fashion styles from the past may be preferable over the trashy fashions of today.
To: All
Ex-sect member fears ‘scandal’ over Canadian kids
Carolyn Jessop says Canadian children could have been sent to Texas compound without their parents
Daphne Bramham , Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, April 24, 2008
It will be “an international scandal from hell” if Texas officials determine that some of the Canadian children taken from the polygamous compound in Texas were taken there without their parents, says a former member of the fundamentalist Mormon group.
And Carolyn Jessop believes that is “a very strong possibility.”
“I suspect that they [the FLDS] had a whole lot of kids there without their parents,” said Jessop, who fled the community in 2003 with her eight children.
Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leave the Tom Green County Courthouse following an informational session with lawyers in San Angelo, Texas.
Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leave the Tom Green County Courthouse following an informational session with lawyers in San Angelo, Texas.
At 18, she became the fifth wife of Merril Jessop, who is in charge of the Yearning for Zion ranch, from which Texas officials took 437 children earlier this month and put them into protective care.
For several years now, children have been reassigned from one father to another and even one family to another as Warren Jeffs, the prophet of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, grew increasingly tyrannical, Carolyn Jessop said in an interview.
That helps explain why so many of the children are unable or unwilling to tell child protection officials who their parents are. This confusion over identities is the reason a Texas judge ordered DNA tests for all of the children and asked that parents voluntarily provide DNA samples.
Testing began Monday and is expected to continue through the week. Processing the samples will take several more weeks.
Even with the testing, Jessop doubted officials will be able to find many of the fathers because some, if not many, of the men are afraid to be tested themselves. Any voluntary DNA samples could be used later in a criminal trial if the mothers were minors when they were impregnated.
And while some of the mothers have said they will do anything to get their children back, including leave the reclusive, breakaway Mormon sect, Jessop said Texas ought to require psychiatric evaluations.
“I don’t think there is one of them who is stable enough to get their children back. Mind control is classed as a mental illness and a child’s right to safety far exceeds a mother’s rights.”
“The women in this society will never protect their children. . . . They turn them over to the perpetrators.”
Jessop said her own children are still in therapy because of the damage her so-called “sister-wives” did to them. Not all of the women are perpetrators of abuse, some are victims of it and they are “pretty good, decent moms within their reality,” she said.
The FLDS launched an Internet offensive Tuesday. Although the media has been careful to obscure the faces of the children taken from the YFZ ranch, the FLDS has posted dozens of photos and video of them on its website along with a plea for donations to a legal defence fund.
But the Texas raid isn’t the only FLDS trial. The FLDS prophet’s lawyers will be in a Utah court this afternoon fighting for a retrial.
Jeffs was convicted last fall on two counts of being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl and was sentenced to two terms of five years to life in prison.
However, the verdict was reached only after a juror was replaced when it was determined she was biased. The woman, a victim of rape at 13, had lied about that when answering a questionnaire given to all potential jurors and in a subsequent in-camera interview with the prosecuting and defence lawyers.
Long article—more at: http://www.canada.com/cityguides/halifax/info/story.html?id=456cc6aa-d32c-474a-aa42-94c5cf3cd6ad&k=61055
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:50:32 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: wideawake
You will find it in many public schools — a series of texts from the series it takes a village.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:51:24 AM PDT
by
Neoliberalnot
((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
To: TriGirl
I do not agree with converting the children to another religion either. I am very sorry to hear this is going on.
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:51:37 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
To: BenLurkin
Unless you dislike slavery
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posted on
04/24/2008 7:51:47 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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