Just for the sake of orderliness (and to prevent the pulling of threads and/or messages), let's do try to stay on topic and polite.
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“They are a throwback to the 19th century in how they dress and how they behave.”
That’s a good thing isn’t it?
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It is always a good thing when the government decides to remove kids from their family so they can be instructed to become worshipers of the state and the all knowing, smiling, big sister. Where is Janette Reno when her help is needed?
CASA Volunteers Called On To Help Sect Children
Reported by: Kristina De Leon
Email: KristinaDeLeon@woai.com
Last Update: 8:44 am
Child Advocates of San Antonio, or “CASA”, has gotten word that its services will be needed in the child custody case involving hundreds of children from a West Texas polygamist compound.
Dozens of volunteers, people who stand up for abused children in court, will meet with a child at least once a month.
The volunteers will first go through training on how to handle the children in a way that respects their unique religion.
“Texas CASA, our state affiliate, is really going to be helping and guiding us through this process,” said Janet Ketcham of CASA. “So there will be a protocol for visits we will hopefully understand more about the sect to make sure to, again, respect the children.”
CASA says it needs volunteers now more than ever. If you are interested in becoming one, click here:
More at: http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=75b48fb6-cb59-43d3-900e-b34eca020bd1&rss=68
Ex-sect member fears ‘scandal’ over Canadian kids
Carolyn Jessop says Canadian children could have been sent to Texas compound without their parents
Daphne Bramham , Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, April 24, 2008
It will be “an international scandal from hell” if Texas officials determine that some of the Canadian children taken from the polygamous compound in Texas were taken there without their parents, says a former member of the fundamentalist Mormon group.
And Carolyn Jessop believes that is “a very strong possibility.”
“I suspect that they [the FLDS] had a whole lot of kids there without their parents,” said Jessop, who fled the community in 2003 with her eight children.
Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leave the Tom Green County Courthouse following an informational session with lawyers in San Angelo, Texas.
Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leave the Tom Green County Courthouse following an informational session with lawyers in San Angelo, Texas.
At 18, she became the fifth wife of Merril Jessop, who is in charge of the Yearning for Zion ranch, from which Texas officials took 437 children earlier this month and put them into protective care.
For several years now, children have been reassigned from one father to another and even one family to another as Warren Jeffs, the prophet of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, grew increasingly tyrannical, Carolyn Jessop said in an interview.
That helps explain why so many of the children are unable or unwilling to tell child protection officials who their parents are. This confusion over identities is the reason a Texas judge ordered DNA tests for all of the children and asked that parents voluntarily provide DNA samples.
Testing began Monday and is expected to continue through the week. Processing the samples will take several more weeks.
Even with the testing, Jessop doubted officials will be able to find many of the fathers because some, if not many, of the men are afraid to be tested themselves. Any voluntary DNA samples could be used later in a criminal trial if the mothers were minors when they were impregnated.
And while some of the mothers have said they will do anything to get their children back, including leave the reclusive, breakaway Mormon sect, Jessop said Texas ought to require psychiatric evaluations.
“I don’t think there is one of them who is stable enough to get their children back. Mind control is classed as a mental illness and a child’s right to safety far exceeds a mother’s rights.”
“The women in this society will never protect their children. . . . They turn them over to the perpetrators.”
Jessop said her own children are still in therapy because of the damage her so-called “sister-wives” did to them. Not all of the women are perpetrators of abuse, some are victims of it and they are “pretty good, decent moms within their reality,” she said.
The FLDS launched an Internet offensive Tuesday. Although the media has been careful to obscure the faces of the children taken from the YFZ ranch, the FLDS has posted dozens of photos and video of them on its website along with a plea for donations to a legal defence fund.
But the Texas raid isn’t the only FLDS trial. The FLDS prophet’s lawyers will be in a Utah court this afternoon fighting for a retrial.
Jeffs was convicted last fall on two counts of being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl and was sentenced to two terms of five years to life in prison.
However, the verdict was reached only after a juror was replaced when it was determined she was biased. The woman, a victim of rape at 13, had lied about that when answering a questionnaire given to all potential jurors and in a subsequent in-camera interview with the prosecuting and defence lawyers.
Long article—more at: http://www.canada.com/cityguides/halifax/info/story.html?id=456cc6aa-d32c-474a-aa42-94c5cf3cd6ad&k=61055
These poor children did not even know what to do with crayons and a sheet of paper, nor did many of their mothers. They have been deprived of everything we normally associate with a happy and well rounded childhood, not just television and modern clothes. Even in the 1850s American children had toys and dolls and picture books. I would bet none of these children has read a Dr. Seuss book, a comic strip, classic children’s literature, poetry. They don’t know who Bambi and Snow White are. They are comparable to Wahhabi children beng sent to madrassas where they do nothing but memorize the Koran all day long. We would not tolerate this in America, and we should not tolerate this cult’s treatment of children either.
No doubt, when they don't even know what stuff like crayons are.
Is the judge also allowing them to be homeschooled? Public school would be way too much for them.
TV can be kept off, they can help with yard work and household chores and be given times to pray as they're used to.
It doesn't have to be that traumatic if the foster parents are willing to put the effort in. Compared to many of the kids most foster parents are used to dealing with, these kids ought to be easy.
Maybe some of the Amish here in PA could serve as foster parents.
Even in this evil offshut from Joe Smith’s religion there is something which appears good ... television has not been ‘baby sitting’ these children so much of the corrosive effects of our modern American degeneracy has yet to assault these children. It would be wonderful if they could be placed in foster care where TV isn’t bombarding their daily life, but it is so rare to find families who have major restrictions on TV viewing and that family not in a cult of some sort. I suppose it is an indictment on our so declining culture.
"The Third Court of Appeals has decided to hear arguments over whether the state of Texas can place children from the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints currently in its custody into foster care without giving each of their families the opportunity to defend themselves in court, according to a press release."
More: HERE
Audio of Rozita Swinton’s “Sarah” calls [snippets only]:
http://www.9news.com/video/player.aspx?aid=51790&bw=
Why the lowercase?
It’s not “fLDS,” it’s “FLDS.”
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/FA/content/htm/fa.005.00.000261.00.htm
greyfoxx39 asked me to provide the link to Texas Statutes for Child Protection...here it is.
The 437 children taken from the compound in West Texas will be plunged into a culture radically different from the community where they and their families shunned the outside world as a hostile, contaminating influence on their godly way of life.
Sounds horrifying.
ISLAMIC MORMONISM
An Irreverent Essay
The Coincidental Similarities
Between Islam and Mormonism
excerpt:
The similarities between Islam and Mormonism may be much more than coincidence. There is a strong indication that Joseph may have studied Islam, just as he studied Masonry, Judaism and Catholicism, and incorporated bits and pieces of all four religions into Mormonism. Consider the following quote:
If the people will let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was “the Alcoran [Qar’an] or the Sword.” So shall it eventually be with us — “Joseph Smith or the Sword!”[17]
http://polygamybooks.com/islamic.htm