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U. Houston Professor Responds to Absolut's Apology for its "Map" Ad.
Houston Chronicle ^

Posted on 04/22/2008 8:09:55 AM PDT by kelsiejackson

Earlier this month, the makers of Absolut Vodka issued a public apology for running an ad with an early 1830s map of North America with the words "In an Absolut world" emblazoned across the front. The retraction came as a result of a threatened boycott initiated by conservative talk radio and Web sites. Who was Absolut apologizing to and why?

The ad itself ran in Mexican magazines and was aimed at an international audience. I would never have even come across it had it not been brought to my attention by this controversy. The complaints seem to range from concern the ad legitimizes undocumented immigration to fear Absolut is advocating an invasion of the American Southwest by Mexico.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absolut; aliens; azatlan; illegalimmigration; immigration; invasion; laraza; littleredschoolhouse; mecha; raulramos; reconquista; revisionisthistory; taxdollarsatwork; youpayforthis
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1 posted on 04/22/2008 8:09:56 AM PDT by kelsiejackson
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What a tool. Prof. Ramos apparently thinks Americans should come to terms with the fact that they stole the land from Mexico. He says he "never got the memo about the Reconquista", but he understands very well what is going on. While maintaining that he does not understand the outrage over the ad, he says "There is a public memory within the Mexican-origin community about the period before 1848. That memory is of a fundamental connection to this land despite being made to feel like outsiders or visitors."

In other words, he denies the whole Reconquista thing, while giving reasons why it is not such a bad idea.

2 posted on 04/22/2008 8:17:55 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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Like the Mexicans ever really controlled the southwest. Mexicans were afraid to go into Comanche territory. They never held that territory, and now it’s burned into their memory that they lost it? Please.


3 posted on 04/22/2008 8:26:21 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: kelsiejackson
Mexico's foreign policy is still defined against American intervention.

So Mexico did not want our help in 1865-66 when we massed 50,000 troops in Texas to help Benito Juarez in his struggle to throw out the French imposed dictator?

4 posted on 04/22/2008 8:27:40 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Our man in washington; kelsiejackson
Reading this caption, the ignorance (or willful disregard of history) is clear by the AP, this author, and, Absolut.

In this image released by the Mexican advertising firm of Teran/TBWA on April 7, an advertisement created for Swedish Absolut Vodka, which ran in Mexico, shows a map of the border of Mexico and the United States where it stood before the Mexican-American War of 1848. ASSOCIATED PRESS

So what of the REPUBLIC OF TEXAS from 1836 on? Hello?

Had Santa Anna, a DICTATOR, not gone after the rights of Texans, that whole thing might never have happened.

5 posted on 04/22/2008 8:30:23 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Ramos says we (and it's obvious he means Anglos) need to get over the Reconquista movement of today but goes on about the incursions of Anglos into Mexico 150 years ago. So we shouldn't worry but he can indoctrinate his classroom full of skulls full of mush.

Incidentally I used to drink Absolute but no longer. Tito's is Texas made and better anyway.

6 posted on 04/22/2008 8:30:34 AM PDT by dblshot
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...Recent politics also remind Mexican-origin people of a time when traversing this territory didn't mean harassment or having to prove you belong.

"...a time when traversing this territory didn't mean harassment..."

Apparently this "Professor of History" has never heard of the Apaches, the Utes and the Comanches, none of which, as I recall, were particularly known for tolerance of interlopers.

7 posted on 04/22/2008 8:31:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

A couple things come to mind about this:

1. Mexico should be rich. They sit on massive gold, silver, and oil reserves (along with other commodities), have pristine beaches, massive commercial/recreational fishing possibilities, and wonderful potential range and agricultural land. They also have great tourist potential for the same reasons and because of spectacular historical locations. Why are they not rich? Well, because their culture is corrupt and pathetic. Ergo, said culture is nothing to celebrate.

2. The Spanish have no greater claim to the lands of the USA than the anglo-americans. Sure, they had some scattered settlements in the West a little earlier than the anglos — a nothing in time in the scale of history. More over, they lost the lands fair and square, were paid for them, and had failed to develop the lands in any meaningful way. Indeed, Texas became Texas almost by default simply by anglos moving in to the vaccuum.

3. The Indians of Mexico have no claim, at all, to the lands of the USA. They were a more-or-less settled farming people just exactly where they are now.


8 posted on 04/22/2008 8:35:03 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: dblshot

Tito’s is, by far, a superior vodka.


9 posted on 04/22/2008 8:35:59 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Sans-Culotte

“In other words, he denies the whole Reconquista thing, while giving reasons why it is not such a bad idea. “

Quite amazing, isn’t it?


10 posted on 04/22/2008 8:37:35 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: MeanWestTexan

So, is Absolut going to use the same gimmick in Germany, using a 1943 map of the Reich?


11 posted on 04/22/2008 8:38:06 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: kelsiejackson

What an empty-headed, clueless, twit...


12 posted on 04/22/2008 8:40:12 AM PDT by danneskjold
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To: Our man in washington

“Like the Mexicans ever really controlled the southwest. Mexicans were afraid to go into Comanche territory.”

You are exactly right. Many Cherokees in Texas had been there since 1820 (with Mexico’s blessing, btw) and protected Sam Houston and the ‘republic of Texas’ from invasion and harassment by Mexicans. The Mexicans didn’t want anything to do with that area as far as living there.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 8:40:26 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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We started by taking our country from England. Took part from France. Another part from Russia. Some from Mexico. The Mexicans in Mexico and those in the US who pose as citizens are just sore losers. For a country that has never accomplished anything they certainly whine a lot. I’m including those who, like the professor, can’t support this country.


14 posted on 04/22/2008 8:41:11 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: kelsiejackson

In Absolut’s obtuse world, the Southwest would be a squalid area, languishing in abject poverty, and doomed under a dysfunctional system of drug lords and corrupt government. Thank goodness the Army of the West liberated this land and its people from incompetent tyranny. America is a great country for having liberated the Southwest. Look how people from the unliberated lands are trying to get here.


15 posted on 04/22/2008 8:43:16 AM PDT by pallis
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Another superb example of why universities can save countless dollars by simply eliminating those departments staffed by fools. Why do we give clowns such as this money? Tenure? I’m serious here. They are not bright and I really really resent the fact that these types carry around the same academic and professorial rank as I and others who have actually encountered intellectual rigor during our professional lives. News for the history marshmallow: we won, get over it. Pretty soon, we’re going to have to do it again. Get over it.


16 posted on 04/22/2008 8:43:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: AuntB

Bit of history -— my family got a land grant from the Queen of Spain -— in the middle of “Comanche Country” on the old maps (near what is now Tom Green County -— all the way to Big Lake).

They said “thanks, but no” until the Mexican Inquisition (they were Jewish), then packed their wagons and never really left.


17 posted on 04/22/2008 8:45:10 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: pallis
In Absolut’s obtuse world, the Southwest would be a squalid area, languishing in abject poverty, and doomed under a dysfunctional system of drug lords and corrupt government. Thank goodness the Army of the West liberated this land and its people from incompetent tyranny. America is a great country for having liberated the Southwest. Look how people from the unliberated lands are trying to get here.

Great post!

18 posted on 04/22/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obama supporters: Drink the Kool-Aid? Yes we can!)
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To: kelsiejackson

***Fact Bastardization Alert***


19 posted on 04/22/2008 8:49:11 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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“You old white people. It is your duty to die.”
HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!

Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187 — proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens — was the last gasp of white America in California.”

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”

Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos ...”

Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=professor


20 posted on 04/22/2008 8:49:45 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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