Marching orders: 'St George' will not be on parade
Posted on 04/20/2008 9:49:43 AM PDT by Stoat
Marching orders: 'St George' will not be on parade
Community groups had planned to stage the multi-cultural event in Bradford and 1,500 schoolchildren were due to take part.
Many of the youngsters had already made flags of St George to carry on the parade on April 23, which was designed to boost community cohesion.
But last week police and council chiefs told the organisers that the event could not go ahead as planned for 'health and safety' reasons. At a meeting, police demanded a shorter route which avoided two streets at the centre of the race riots in 2001.
As a result, organisers have decided to call off the event, which was due to attract more than 10,000 people.
Bradford City councillor Quasim Khan said: "We were told by the police at the meeting that the original route had not been risk assessed and if we wanted a march to go ahead on that date, St George's Day, we would have to accept a smaller, different route.
"The police officers were getting quite animated, saying things like 'look, this just isn't going to happen'." Police and council officials said they did not have sufficient warning of the event.
However, community leaders planning the parade said the event was blighted because of fears it could stoke up violence. They claimed a police inspector had actually begun the plans for the parade nine months ago.
The Rev Tony Tooby, chairman of governors at St Philips primary school, which was due to take part, said: "We wanted the route to include where some of the riots had taken place to educate our young people.
"The police and council just kept telling us that the reason for their objection was 'health and safety'. They proposed another route which was ridiculously short. The march would have been over before it began.
"Unfortunately, there's a fear that someone may have used it to cause violence.
"The day seems to have been taken away from us because of fears of thugs. "The council and police say something could go ahead on July 1, but it won't be a St George's Day celebration.'
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Flashpoint: Bradford's violence in 2001 started after an Asian man was stabbed by National Front thugs
Instead Bradford City Council, on the advice of the police, offered organisers a shorter route that avoided those two streets. This was rejected.
Ironically, plans for the parade only started after Inspector Kash Singh of Bradford's Neighbourhood Policing Team brought together a committee of local community leaders and school headteachers.
Bradford City Council leader Kris Hopkins insisted last night that it had not cancelled the parade – simply the original route, which he maintained had been drawn up without the involvement of his officials.
"The council has not banned the St George's Day parade," he said. "It was a police-organised event which members of the community got involved in and which we were extremely supportive of.
"But given the involvement of 1,500 children, including six and seven-year-olds, we suggested a slightly safer route. It's not about banning any march. We've got a responsibility to look after our children."
West Yorkshire Police said: "Routes were offered to allow a smaller St George's Day Parade to go ahead, but these were rejected."
A spokesman denied the decision to change the route was to avoid potential violence.
Local Tory MP Philip Davies said: "This was a prime opportunity to promote integration in a celebration of being British. "The police and council, whether it's through political correctness or whatever, have failed miserably. It's frankly pathetic."
The Bradford riots in July, 2001, were sparked by the stabbing of a local Asian youth by National Front supporters. They ended with more than 300 police injured and 297 people arrested.
In the parlance of the UK press, "Asian" usually means "muslim".
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On the significance of St. George:
"Saint George is the patron saint of England. He's popularly identified with England and English ideals of honour, bravery and gallantry..."
BBC - Religion & Ethics - Saint George Introduction
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St. George - England's Patron Saint
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After victory at Agincourt, St George's Day was ordered to be observed with the same dignity as Christmas Day - but it was only at Euro 96 that England fans adopted the flag of St George
By George, it's time to raise the flag! - Telegraph
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Good job it wasn't a MUSLIM march. If it had been they couldn't have banned it because of racism.
- Donald A Merritt, Borehamwood Herts
The fact that the proposed parade was cancelled is proof that the powers that be realise that there are Muslim ghettos in this country.
- James, London, UK
Disgusting that we cannot walk in safety in our own country in certain areas because we're scared of the Muslims that live there.
- Frank, England
Get the racist immigrants out of our country NOW!
- Heather Savage, UK
The politically correct police once again cause more problems than they solve. By banning this parade they have likely caused more tension and likelihood of problems than had it been allowed to proceed.
It must be part of a policeman's training now, 'How to cause more problems than to resolve them'.
- Pip Waller, Scarborough North Yorkshire
Yet another example of the indigenous communities of this country being stifled, and feeling ashamed to be English. This government are really pushing us to the brink - come the civil war!
- Tony, Luton
This is England, or have these people forgotten. I am sick of being victimised in my own country.
- Karen, West Midlands
When did Britain stop being British?
- Nick Martin, UK
It appears that the Police are declaring "no go " zones. Funny how it's always a British Christian event that gets cancelled. If they tried to cancel a Muslim festival on whatever grounds, there would be no end of trouble. Frankly, I think the Police have proved to be pathetic on this one.
- Mel Hodkinson, st lucia
I don't suppose people like Quassim Khan have a secret agenda. It will be interesting to see his thoughts on Diwali or ramadan in the coming months, given the reasons they should be banned too.
- Jim, London
This is stupid. It is right for the parade to take place on the original route and it is right that the police are there to ensure that it takes place peacefully. Health & Safety - the police should be supporting Queen, St.George and England not the PC brigade.
- Tony, Granada, Spain
Immigrants are dictating to the English once again about what they can do in their country. Do you think you could tell the Japanese or Chinese or anyone else, that they could not celebrate their special day and show their patriotism, because it somehow may 'offend' newcomers?
- Charlotte Browning, Bolton, England
Ah, the postings from Englishmen that you cite give me hope. C’mon, England, rmember who you are!
“This is England, or have these people forgotten. I am sick of being victimised in my own country.”
This WAS England.
And those are ALL of the current postings at the Daily Mail site, which in my view is significant.
C’mon, England, rmember who you are!
Many do, perhaps more than what much in the Press might suggest. And many are enthusiastic FReepers as well :-)
I wonder how many of the city overlords and police are already Muslims?
The Muslims are conquering because the British authorities are allowing them that luxury. Where will England be in 50 years? If there are not race riots now, there either will be in the future or Britain will become a Muslim outpost. The authorities have got to regain their sturdy British backbones and get the newcomers to shape up or ship out.
Multiculturalism was formed in the crucible of guilt over the colonial era, but that’s over. Non-western nations are not vastly superior to western ones. Evil exists in the world. It always has and it always will. Western nations colonized much of the third world and produced much suffering; China is colonizing Tibet and producing much suffering; the Japanese did all kinds of horrible things in China during World War II. The list of conquest goes on and on (and it always will). We in the West do not need to repent to the point that we give our civilizations away.
It's England not the 7th Century TURD-WORLD Mohammedan land that you “Asians” came from!
Don't like it?
Well then,.. CLEAR OFF! The WHOLE LOT of Ya!
I wonder how many of the city overlords and police are already Muslims?
Three Bradford councillors have "mohammed" as part of their published name, and so I would assume that they are muslim. Many others may be as well....
Councillors - Alphabetical List
As to the police, these FR threads may possibly be of interest:
Great Britain Muslim police officer excused Israel guard duty (Embassy duty excuse labeled P.C.)
Revealed The hijab-wearing 17-year-old Muslim girl hired as a community police officer (U.K.)
U.K. Priest gets a visit from 'hate crime' police for expressing his views on Muslim veil affair
Great Britain White men may wait three years to get into the Metropolitan Police
Met Police forced to spend £15,000 on new mascot - because old one is 'too male and white'(UK)
1- It's not a RACE problem. Race has nothing to do with it.
2- They are not ASIANS, they are MUSLIMS. Get it straight.
3- Not all Britons who resist are THUGS. Most are patriots.
4- I expect to see RAMADAN celebrations cancelled this year.
Between the EU severely restricting bagpipe playing and the cancellation of this historical parade, the cultural heritage of the UK is firmly on it’s way towards total erasure.
When multi-culturalism hits the brick wall of multi-barbarism.
Properly, it should have said “Saint George’s Day Parade In Muslim Ghetto Cancelled Due To Local Savagery”.
Interesting. Going by the names of the Council members, 22 out of 90 are Muslims. I think one woman and 21 men.
Not yet a majority, but certainly a substantial number. Enough to explain why the Council was working with the police to wreck the parade, although it almost certainly helps bring business into the city.
Cicero wrote:
Interesting. Going by the names of the Council members, 22 out of 90 are Muslims. I think one woman and 21 men.
Not yet a majority, but certainly a substantial number. Enough to explain why the Council was working with the police to wreck the parade, although it almost certainly helps bring business into the city.”
Islam rejects “Capitalism”! They are incompatible.
As well as being symbolic of England and English traditions; which apparently are viewed as being 'overly problematic' to bring into 'certain areas'.
It was Richard the Lionheart who officially claimed St George as England's patron saint in the 12th century. (During the Crusades an apparition of St George reportedly appeared on the walls of Jerusalem waving his sword and encouraging the English onto a victorious assault on the Holy city.) Two centuries later, following the creation of the noble order of St George and the Standard of St George, which was always carried into battle, the rallying cry of the English army was "God for England, Harry and St George''. And after victory at Agincourt, St George's Day was, according to H P Maskell in his book The Taverns of Old England, "made a double feast and ordered to be observed with the same dignity as Christmas Day''.
And remember Meerut, May 10, 1857! 
Alas, if that comes to pass I fear it will be worse, much worse. The Muslim religion is like an iceberg. It looks massive but in reality is comprised of numberless contending shards held together by little more than outside force(s). London wouldn't be a "Muslim outpost". It will be Beirut-on-the-Thames.
Oh, yes, I’m familiar with St. George’s Day. It was one of the few Catholic ceremonies that managed to transfer over as a patriotic celebration after the English Reformation.
The Knight in Book I of The Faerie Queene proves to be St. George of Merrie England.
When some of our children were in school in England while I was a visiting scholar at Cambridge, they performed St. George and the Dragon as their annual Christmas Pageant.
What I was getting at is that, even if they don’t give a damn any more about tradition or patriotism, you’d think they’d be concerned about the city’s prosperity. That’s supposed to be their job.
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