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1 posted on 04/19/2008 12:45:00 PM PDT by rellimpank
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2 posted on 04/19/2008 12:50:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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And so we have another government offishul deciding what is or is not legit????? Ok on the knees but no kidney ....


6 posted on 04/19/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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The Democrats want to force people to get their health care through the government. If there were really for health care choice, they would move to expand HSA's and other means to allow people to choose their own health care without government involvement.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 04/19/2008 1:08:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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My FSA validates nearly every transaction, even ones for “Elliot Hospital,” because I have 10% coinsurance so the amount charged to the card is almost never exactly equal to the $25 copayment.

The drug stores have introduced item-level tagging, however, so stuff that doesn’t qualify can’t be charged to the card.


9 posted on 04/19/2008 1:11:54 PM PDT by mvpel
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Health Insurance was a scam to begin with. It was invented to let a defense contractor get around wage and price control during the Second World War. It is not even insurance but rather "pre-paid medical care." Think about it like your car, "Insurance" pays for unexpected emergencies not regular maintenance. And now "health insurance" has become all about government control of health with the full connivance of the Doctors Guild (American Medical Association). They need the money to pay for health care for illegals which is why if you are young and in good health in California they are not allowed to sell you true "insurance" for emergency treatment.

I discovered all this when I went into business for myself in 2002. My wife has a chronic disease and no company would sell me insurance at any price. But if she had not had it, the closest price would have been $2000 per month. Let's see now, over six years that would have cost me $144,000. So I self-insured. The brainwashing on this topic is amazing. All the time people, highly educated people, gape at my wife and I when we tell them we do not have insurance.

Here's what I did on my own. I put $300,00 into a mutual fund. Post-tax dollars, No HSA, no government involvement. We shop for our medical care. I have negotiated treatments that were priced at $3500 to $800. I buy my wife's medicine in Mexico or from Canada. And don't try to sell me drug company propaganda, they are the exact same drugs they sell at Costco or Rite-Aid. So at last reckoning (when I did my taxes this year) instead of being $144,000 poorer. I am well over $125,000 better off after 5 years.

Dance little puppets, dance!

10 posted on 04/19/2008 1:18:54 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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This isn’t really about health care. It’s about power. The Democrats want to control every aspect of our lives, and the health care scam is their way of accomplishing this. Private insurance would circumvent their agenda.


11 posted on 04/19/2008 1:50:43 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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It is my freakin’ money...!


13 posted on 04/19/2008 2:04:48 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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I know the inside story on this bill. It was proposed by a self-interested administrator (Evolution Benefits) who pays FSA claims. They wanted a piece of the $8 a month in fees they would get from everyone with an existing HSA. Many HSA enrollees currently pay nothing, as well as collect interest in their funds (I get about 5%, with no fees). This adds tons of extra hassle and expense for everyone, and ONLY claim administrators and Dem controlled congress makes out.

Late last week, Evolution Benefits reversed position and no longer supports the proposed law because of industry/enrollee outrage and anger from nearly everyone else. However, it was too late. Congress wants the $2 billion they stand to make off the increased hassle and lower enrollments in money saving HSA plans. This is NO documentation of abuse of any kind with existing HSA’s, NONE, NADA, ZIP.

Ironically, nearly every congressional office has enrollees in HSA plans through the Federal benefits program. It is very popular with penny-pinching, underpaid D.C. staffers.

Congress has absolutely no problem with screwing up the only thing that saves money in private healthcare for a few bucks. They really want to force us all into higher levels of dissatisfaction in the hopes we will demand single payer.
Their hypocrisy goes beyond even what I had ever imagined.

14 posted on 04/19/2008 3:04:28 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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22 posted on 04/20/2008 10:30:09 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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