Posted on 04/19/2008 5:53:21 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
New York, April 19: Apparently tired of bickering between presidential hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Democratic Party leaders are likely to pressurise the former US first lady to withdraw if she performs badly in the crucial Pennsylvania primary on Tuesday, analysts say.
However, should she decide to continue to fight until the party convention on August 24 in Denver, the party can do little about it.
But with several party leaders asserting that the vicious campaign is doing damage to the ability of the Democratic party to take on Republican candidate John McCain, pressure is likely to mount on super delegates elected officials to declare their preference so that the candidate with lesser numbers could be persuaded to withdraw.
In the debate in Philadelphia earlier this week, both candidates had said that their fight would not affect the Democratic Party's ability to defeat McCain and that they would get united once the nominee is chosen.
But the party bosses do not think so. They say if the fight continues until August, the party would lose three crucial months of campaigning apart from the fact that the Republicans would give ammunition to damage whichever candidate is nominated.
Party Chairman Howard Dean, media reports say, has been urging the super delegates to make up their mind early as there is no chance of either candidate getting enough pledged delegates. The super delegates are not committed to anyone and decide on their own.
Meanwhile, Clinton slightly shifted the line of attack on Obama, challenging his ability to manage the country when he is complaining about tough questioning during the debate in which his performance, all analysts agree, was below par.
If you live in Pennsylvania you must vote for Hillary on Tuesday.
But perhaps keeping him in there, impotent, is far better than replacing him.
Oh I agree as to the Clintonista mindset. The DNC pretty much knows she will win but she has to win BIG and that isn’t gonna happen per real clear politics average of the polls. Winning by a large margin (double digits) is what will keep her in the race. Anything else is playing the huckster option aka hoping her opponent will mess up or worse........hang around to win the nomination by default per se.
Does PA allow one to vote one party in the primaries and another in the general election or are they bound by their primary vote ??? If they allow such they probably haven’t factored in the cross over voters that will play in that primary.
All just my opinion of course. Not to be misconstrued or confused with fact or luck......:o)
I don't think they'll let me...I'm not registered Democrat! :-)
I’m loving the fact that the super delegates idea is becoming their own petard by which that the Dims are being hoisted.
I agree, why should she drop out? She won’t be the VP nominee and this what she’s wanted to do her whole life. Her candidacy is “not dead yet,” (read like Monty Python).
Plus, it’s fun to watch.
Of course. As a Republican, you can vote in the Republican primary, but then vote Democrat in the general election.
I'm registered Republican and am voting for Ron Paul in the primary on Tuesday, but that doesn't mean I'm necessarily voting for McCain in November. I might vote third party.
Hillary will need a shot and a beer to get through the resignation...
I used to think SCOTUS might be a goal, but then she could’t rake in as much dirty dollars...or juan...or dirhams...or...
Generally, if you vote in one party's primary you are then prevented from voting in another party's runoff election that year. But there's no such thing as being handed a "Democrat ballot" in November. Anyone can vote in the general election for candidates of either party, regardless of who they voted for in the primary election(s).
She was a third rate lawyer at best. Is that the new (demo)requirement for SCOTUS?
The filthy banshee has already lost this.
Hillary has so much baggage, is widely disliked, and has damaged herself badly with the Democrats and the media that I think, if she would by some chance, become the nominee, many Dems will not vote for her, the press will be hard on her, and McCain will win. Even with all his liberal leanings in the past, he is the most qualified to run this country and that is what it is all about. For sure he will be much more of a "uniter" between the parties than either of the Democrat candidates...he has already proven he works well with them, if often to our dismay. And a Democrat president, with a Democrat congress would be an absolute horror for this country. IMHO.
Hillary is helping the Republicans greatly by constantly pointing out Obama's inexperience, his shady associates and his murky plans.
If and when McCain wins in November, Hillary will become the hate target of the Democrats for "outing" Obama. Oh, how they will despise her!
Why didn't you quit, you putz? You criticized and tarnished the Sacred Obama! Now we're stuck with another Republican! Arrrgh!!!
> So, sounds like theyre scared shes gonna win the
> popular vote and then what happens to their golden boy?
Golden boy has been losing support in DROVES up here in the communist gulag of New Hampster.
Obama signs are disappearing, and it ain’t vandalism.
His support is melting, fast and furious.
Interesting that there are no Hillary signs in his place.
I think that the Oblama supporters up here are getting disillusioned. Since their guy has turned out to be a communist, anti-American trojan horse, they are taking a wait’n’see position.
The revelation of his affiliation with communist terrorist bomber and 9-11 celebrant, Bill Ayers, has delivered a serious, perhaps fatal, blow to his campaign, even worse than the ravings and foamings of the lunatic “rev’rend” Wright.
Fixed it.
:grin:
I find the whole thing hilarious and terrifying (prospect of Manchurian Candidate becoming President Obama ). Fact is, they completely blew Michigan and Florida, though even if they give Clinton the delegates she won, it wouldn’t make any real difference in the end. Add to this, you have years of demagoguing the “count every vote” mantra (and count them 10,000 times for each superdelegate, apparently). They’ve really painted themselves in a corner. First they though Hil would pummel through victorious, then they decided midstream to jump ship and follow their newly annointed lefty standard bearer.
Problem is, it wasn’t until the Wright/Ayers/Bitter episode that the Supers finally figured out that there was a problem with their Chosen One. He associates with nutjobs, it is increasingly clear that he’s disdainful of average Americans, his first cousin (whom Obama campaigned for in 2006) is the Prime Minister of Kenya who just agreed to institute a rather brutal form of Shariah law, his entire family (including his strangely absent white mother) are muslims, he’s basically jettisoned any identification he might have had with his white upbringing, he’s married to an extreme radical leftist who makes 6 times as much as the average american while working as a glorified appointment scheduler, he’s got no experience except as a child, he’s got no understanding of economics (witness the capital gains and wage tax blunders), he’s got no understanding of religion, he’s got no balls (sorry, but let’s be honest here), he got his house in an extremely shady deal (if ABC wanted to be tough on Barry, they’d have nailed him on Rezko); he’d be eaten alive by the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, Terrorists (assuming he isn’t a “real” manchurian candidate)...in a word Hillary was right all along: the guy is clearly unelectable. For Pete’s sake, Kerry is a regular Joe Sixpack compared to Obama.
Omigod, now what? the supers say. Dean’s solution is to pressure the supers to decide now (of course Dean is backing away from that idea). He’s right—if it’s too late and they’re stuck with Obama, they need that much time to get an adult on the ticket and come up with enough lies and dirt on McCain to drag him down (unfortunately, a lot of anti-Mc Freepers are only too willing to help in that).
I’m personally conflicted. Obama should be toasted by McCain, but there is the off chance that he could pull out, that McCain pulls a boner with his mouth, or picks a crappy veep and then we’ve got Obama in office. Hillary would be much, much tougher to beat on the other hand—especially after proving so resiliant. Dean knows this, Richardson now knows this, everyone knows this but no one will admit it. If the bosses pick Hil, the Obamaniacs will riot—literally. If they go with Obama, he’ll get creamed and they will riot if the election is close. If Obama is actually elected, he will be a one-termer that will do so much damage to the party that there won’t be another dem president for a generation. They know this. I have to agree with Newt on this—the outcomes may be short term good for Reps, but long term this is a very bad situation for the country. I’d rather lose to Hil and hold my nose for four or eight years, than risk losing to Obama and having suicide bombers invited to the white house.
I wondered about that too. Can’t these people write anymore?
I believe there ARE states that lock you in per your primary participation for the general election later in the year.......may be in error. But I think I read that here.
Stay safe DG !!
I think that McCain practically has this election in the bag. Obama is another Jimmy Carter and Hillary is another Pol Pot or Hitler. I was listening to Hannity yesterday and a democratic strategist said that the Democrats have made a suicide pact. They have selected the most unelectable candidates and we have selected the most electable.
Given that, I don’t want Hillary to get within 2 feet of the White House. Pennsylvania please don’t sully yourself and vote for that witch. Let her campaign die so we can focus on beating Obama.
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