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"The problem that unfolded in the Roman Catholic Church has its roots in homosexuality, not pedophilia."

1 posted on 04/18/2008 6:38:50 PM PDT by kellynla
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2 posted on 04/18/2008 6:39:19 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Man/Boy “Love” has been a staple in homosexual practice since the time of the ancient Greeks...


Give me a break. This kind of perversion was common in all cultures on all continents. And its prevalence in ancient Greece has been greatly exagerrated. Thankfully the arrival of Christianity enlightened the Greeks, among he first to finally rid themselves of this practice.


3 posted on 04/18/2008 6:49:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: kellynla

Benedict has his own house to get in order before he can speak to the world with moral clarity.


6 posted on 04/18/2008 7:25:22 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kellynla
It’s true that many Catholic leaders, to their disgrace, ignored early reports and initiated a cover-up.

Early reports, like, in 1960?

My father planned to become a priest, and enrolled in a Catholic seminary. But he lasted only a matter of weeks, because of the bitter, mean, furious, spiteful, and petty men he found in leadership positions there, men representing the polar opposite of what he was raised to understand Christ's earthly servants ought to represent.

Not to mention the evening meeting with one of the teachers or administrators that went like a scene from the movie Airplane.

Needless to say, since I'm here typing this, he decided not to become a priest after all.

8 posted on 04/18/2008 7:37:29 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: kellynla

The first thing that should be dealt with are the Seminaries. If they are set right in the beginning, the problem will be eliminated.


11 posted on 04/18/2008 7:48:50 PM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a serious mental illness)
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To: kellynla
The problem that unfolded in the Roman Catholic Church has its roots in homosexuality, not pedophilia.

Of course this is obvious to most thinking people.

Someone ought to talk about, just for perspective, the rates of pedophilia in the public school system and other institutions for a while, because it's not a "Roman Catholic" problem. It's inexcusable in the Church, and everywhere else. But it's by no means unique to it.

Heard a priest talk the other night about what it was like to be a seminarian in the seventies (He was an Episcopal priest first, converted to Catholicism in the eighties). He went to Yale, his parish was in New Haven. When an elite faction within the Episcopal church began pushing for women "priests" in the '70's, he said, lecturers would show homosexual pornography to students as part of their 'education.'

We haven't heard a peep about the problem of pedophilia in the Episcopal church. And who knows, it may disintegrate before we do. But it's, by all reconings, a fact.

And just what the hell happened to this country in the late '60's? In retrospect, it looks as if some sort of all-out attack was launched from within.

14 posted on 04/18/2008 8:21:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (to love New York is to love humanity.)
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To: kellynla
Bingo on the homosexuality vs pedophilia angle.

Much of the problems with America's Catholic churches, IMHO, can be traced to Jadot.

18 posted on 04/18/2008 8:34:48 PM PDT by ikka
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To: kellynla
“We will rid the church of pedophile priests,” said Pope Benedict on his flight to America. That’s good news except for one thing: the root problem among the priests was homosexuality, not pedophilia. Pedophilia is the attraction by adults to children, both boys and girls and the priest scandals have been, with few exceptions, man to boy.

Oh, Pope Benedict XVI understands this quite well. I believe his pedophilia distinction was made to assuage those who would be highly offended if he singled out homosexual men, and would spend all their time complaining. But, behind the scenes, he's working hard to assist the change of climate at Seminaries, where this problem was rooted.

This newest crop of Bishops, mostly appointed by John Paul II, have been demanding more orthodoxy at the Seminaries to which they send their candidates for ordination, and some are flatly refusing to send them to the institutions with the reputation for pooftery. They are demanding resignations of the boards that held up approval of holy, more orthodox, young men, in favor of men who were openly homosexual, or were what they considered more 'mature' about sex. The Rectors of those institutions are also being changed, in favor of men who won't allow the sinful behavior to continue. Even Wilton Gregory, who did such a lousy job as President of the Bishop's Conference, is refusing to send the candidates from his new Diocese to the closest Seminary, because he wanted stronger priests than the ones that had been coming out of it, before, who had been affected by the attitudes of the liberals in charge there.

22 posted on 04/18/2008 9:10:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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From nytimes.com:

Apparently drawing a distinction between priests with homosexual tendencies and those inclined to molest children, the pontiff said: “I would not speak at this moment about homosexuality, but pedophilia, which is another thing. And we would absolutely exclude pedophiles from the sacred ministry.” “Who is guilty of pedophilia cannot be a priest,” he added.
Infuriatingly irrelevant. Does this mean that the pope wants to get rid of the rare pedophile priests while leaving in place the non-pedophile, gay pederast priests who perpetrated the vast majority of the abuse? Or could he not be bothered to spend thirty seconds looking up "pedophile" in the dictionary? This is yet another unserious response by the Catholic Church.
24 posted on 04/18/2008 9:48:05 PM PDT by TChad
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The solution is quite simple. Follow the February 1961 ban on ordaining homosexuals and pederasts.

Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers.

45 posted on 04/19/2008 9:45:45 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: kellynla
“The problem that unfolded in the Roman Catholic Church has its roots in homosexuality, not pedophilia.”

Correct-over 92% of the abuse was of post pubescent boys. The abuse was almost all homosexual rape.

56 posted on 04/19/2008 2:41:43 PM PDT by rwlawrence
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To: kellynla
If Pope Benedict XVI can’t bring moral clarity on this issue to a world rapidly descending into homosexual acceptance, then who can?

He's 100% right, of course. But what he neglects to say is that Benedict made the removal of homosexuals from the priesthood one of the first acts of his pontificate.
72 posted on 04/20/2008 9:20:25 PM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: kellynla
Yes, I would have preferred he spoke plainly about homosexuality.

He seemed afraid to do so, afraid of the gay lobby and their conduits, the US media.

As long as we are afraid, we give them more and more power and influence over our children and our schools.

82 posted on 04/21/2008 7:50:32 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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