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Maher to Apologize for Calling Pope a 'Nazi'
CNSNews.com ^ | April 17, 2008 | Melanie Hunter-Omar

Posted on 04/18/2008 6:40:10 AM PDT by paterfamilias

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To: Petronski
[Nothing personal about dictionary meanings-objective facts.]

Which has nothing to do with your personal interpretation of Scripture.

Exactly, objective definitions show that Paul is speaking of one type of justification, James another.

Simple truth, nothing subjective about it.

You can reject it but it nevertheless remains true because it is an objective fact.

501 posted on 04/30/2008 10:57:54 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: WileyPink

bump


502 posted on 05/01/2008 5:38:40 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Exactly, objective definitions show that Paul is speaking of one type of justification, James another.

This is your opinion.

503 posted on 05/01/2008 5:40:49 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Christ said that any vine not producing fruit He would remove (sin unto death-1Jn.5:16), and those that are would be purged to produced more.

Emphasis added. I think you and I agree more than we disagree.

504 posted on 05/01/2008 8:22:18 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Petronski
[Exactly, objective definitions show that Paul is speaking of one type of justification, James another.]

This is your opinion.

No, that is the truth based on the context of the verses and the dictionary meaning of the justification.

505 posted on 05/01/2008 11:34:15 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, that is the truth based on the context of the verses and the dictionary meaning of the justification.

In your opinion.

506 posted on 05/02/2008 2:49:09 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
[No, that is the truth based on the context of the verses and the dictionary meaning of the justification.]

In your opinion.

No, it is the factual truth, no matter what anyone's opinon is.

507 posted on 05/02/2008 5:20:05 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, it is the factual truth, no matter what anyone's opinon is.

That too is your opinion.

508 posted on 05/02/2008 5:20:44 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
Actually, it is the opinion of the translators of the Roman Catholic NAB as well,

'It has been argued that the teaching here contradicts that of Paul (see especially Rom.4,5-6). The problem can only be understood if the different viewpoints of the two authors are seen. Paul argues against those who claim to participate in God's salvation because of their good deeds as well as because they have committed themselves to trust in God through Jesus Christ (Pauls concept of faith)....The author of James is well aware that proper conduct can only come about with an authentic commitment to God in faith...(n.pg.1398, New American Bible)

I await your next 'brillant' denial.

509 posted on 05/02/2008 7:04:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Where is the link to that information?


510 posted on 05/02/2008 7:09:01 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Do you imagine that these words are an endorsement of sola fide?
511 posted on 05/02/2008 7:22:45 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
Where is the link to that information?

Buy yourself a NAB, I did!

512 posted on 05/04/2008 6:11:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Petronski
Do you imagine that these words are an endorsement of sola fide?

What those words from a Roman Catholic Bible show is that there are two aspects to Justification, one which is spiritual, justification which makes a man pure before God, (faith without deeds) and one that is seen by men (faith producing good deeds).

So, it is not just my 'personal opinion', but the opinion of the RCC translators of the NAB that see that also.

513 posted on 05/04/2008 6:21:14 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
That would be an endorsement of sola fide. The USCCB is flawed and liberal, but not heretical.
514 posted on 05/04/2008 9:09:29 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Buy yourself a NAB...

It's a dreadful translation. I'll pass.

515 posted on 05/04/2008 9:10:47 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I’ve heard this jerk has to use laugh tracks and prompters.


516 posted on 05/04/2008 9:24:31 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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To: Petronski
[Buy yourself a NAB...]

It's a dreadful translation. I'll pass.

A ROMAN CATHOLIC translation is a dreadful translation?

It even has a picture of a Pope on the cover!

Took about private interpretations, you even reject your own churches translations when they go against your opinions!

517 posted on 05/04/2008 10:11:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Petronski
[That would be an endorsement of sola fide. The USCCB is flawed and liberal, but not heretical.]

Whatever you thing it would be an endorsement of, the New American Bible is a Roman Catholic translation that states very clearly that Justification has two aspects to it.

It was approved by the Roman Catholic Church as having nothing offensive in it.

Stop being a heretic!

LOL!

518 posted on 05/04/2008 10:15:23 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: All
Correction: [Took about private interpretations]

That should read 'talk' not 'took'.

519 posted on 05/04/2008 11:05:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
...the New American Bible is a Roman Catholic translation that states very clearly that Justification has two aspects to it.

Faith and works.

520 posted on 05/05/2008 4:39:42 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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