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Pretty damning report.
1 posted on 04/17/2008 9:34:29 PM PDT by The_Republican
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both democrats and republicans are tired of the war.

if mccain intends to run on iraq,

he’s got some explaining to do.

hello to a democrat president and congress.

thanks a lot.
/s


2 posted on 04/17/2008 9:37:37 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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Had this “report” said that the surge was working and the U.S.A. was winning, the “media” would have treated it as though it didn’t even exist. If you want ink for your “report,” you better make sure you trash America. Just my two cents.


3 posted on 04/17/2008 9:40:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help make the world "a better place!" De-Globalize yourself.)
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Joseph Collins (Sycophant Democratic Holdover from the Clinton I Adm.)
4 posted on 04/17/2008 9:40:41 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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Shaddup ya face! This whole thing will pay for itself I tells ya!

American people are holding the receipt to the Brooklyn bridge... that said we should double down and just make Iraq our crown jewel. Secure Iraq and this WILL be the American Century. Leave now and its a multi polar world.


5 posted on 04/17/2008 9:42:08 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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This thing reads like a Helen Thomas opinion piece.

Is this Joseph Collins guy bucking for the SecDef spot in the next Clinton administration?

7 posted on 04/17/2008 9:46:43 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Between 2003 and 2007, it WAS a debacle. Did anyone who supported deposing Saddam (me included) think it would have turned out like this? But the first year of WWII and Korea were absolute debacles too, and just like those wars, we can and must prevail here.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 9:48:17 PM PDT by PC99
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Your edits tell the tale. If the stuff you highlighted had some swearing and a few uses of the terms "Bushco", "godbags" and "neocons" they would fit in right at DU. And the whole article has the tone of this.

Lastly, the folks at this institute are politicized or morons if they believe that we're in a "major war" based on casualties or economics. Four thousand dead is 2,800 fewer men than we lost in five weeks at Iwo Jima, and a war that costs 1% of GDP is not a major war by any stretch of the imagination.

9 posted on 04/17/2008 9:49:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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Who needs the Pentagon!
what do they do anyway?


10 posted on 04/17/2008 9:50:29 PM PDT by shadowcat
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So then, if everything the report says was done wrong had been done any other way, the Churchill quote would still apply. Remember now it says, "Never,never..."

"Let us learn our lessons. Never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter.

14 posted on 04/17/2008 9:57:41 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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All we have to do is win. Give peace in Iraq a chance.(60’s lyrics)


15 posted on 04/17/2008 9:57:44 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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Uh huh. A McClatchy spin on a report written last fall. I’ll pass, thanks.


17 posted on 04/17/2008 10:01:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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His bio attached to an essay he wrote for the American Security Project called “Rebalancing Our National Power” says:

“he was active in plans and policy for the war [in] Afghanistan, as well as in the initial planning for Operation Iraqi Freedom.”

http://www.americansecurityproject.org/essays/rebalancing_our_national_power

So he was deeply involved in the war that he complains about!

BTW, the American Security Project’s chairman is...Gary Hart.

The board of directors is full of liberals, RINOs, and Clintonistas: Chuck Hagel, John Kerry,Susan Rice, Warren Rudman,...

http://www.americansecurityproject.org/about/board_of_directors


19 posted on 04/17/2008 10:06:43 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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Pretty damning report.

LOL, yeah, if you are naive enough to believe it.
Ahh, the election season brings all the worms out from under their rocks....

20 posted on 04/17/2008 10:07:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Well, since Collins was recently the deputy assistant secretary of defense for stability operations, I guess he’d know if he eff’d it up or not.


22 posted on 04/17/2008 10:08:00 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - The Original Slave Owners)
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Here’s the report online:

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Occasional_Papers/OP5.pdf


23 posted on 04/17/2008 10:08:42 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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Ya, we should have just done nothing. 40,000,000 people still living under a pair of brutal dictatorships, not our problem. Israel probably destroyed, not our problem. Saddam Hussein still in power, probably with nuclear weapons, not our problem. Massive destabilization of an area that produces 70% of the worlds oil supply, hey, not our problem either. More terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, well, as long as they killed less than 4,000 people, then we're still ahead. After all, we've lost almost 4000 soldiers, a staggering amount considering the minuscule number of casualties that we had during the civil war, world war I, world war II, Korean, and Viet Nam. It's a quagmire I tell you, a quagmire. We should pull out now. There's still time to reverse this thing and get things back to the way they were. Beside, we've got a lot more important things to worrry about, like global warming.
25 posted on 04/17/2008 10:10:50 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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“The addition of 30,000 U.S. troops to Iraq last year to halt the country's descent into all-out civil war has improved security, but not enough to ensure that the country emerges as a stable democracy at peace with its neighbors, the report said.”

This is a Fu*king pathetic Wesley Clark piece of crap Clintonista report.

This sounds like another A-hole cheerleader for failure emerging to be a hero of the left.

Just like the drive by media to produce junk to satisfy useful idiots that love appeasing radical Islam.

How about if Dr. Joseph Collins rephrase the stupid statment to be more accurate and report that Syria and Iran are terrorizing its neighbor Iraq so it could never have peace.

Why doesn't he talk to his friends at NDU about the ignorance of the Iraq Study Group, Senate Select Intelligence Committee and 911 Commissions incompetence to connect the dots between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

This is Junk.

The media needs to stop giving our troops bad gloomy one sided news when they happen to be fighting a noble war.

35 posted on 04/17/2008 10:19:16 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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Guess I can add Dr. Collins name to this list.


46 posted on 04/17/2008 10:32:02 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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If the Pentagon has issued a report like this during the early stages of WWII would this nation be clamoring to get out of that war? Damning report? Sure, by people who have an agenda that does not include winning this war.


61 posted on 04/17/2008 10:54:00 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Occasional_Papers/OP5.pdf


83 posted on 04/18/2008 6:32:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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