Posted on 04/17/2008 4:07:06 PM PDT by Aristotelian
I confess that when the producers of Ben Stein’s new documentary “Expelled” called, offering me a private screening, I was less than excited.
It is a reality of PC liberalism: There is only one credible side to an issue, and any dissent is not only rejected, it is scorned. Global warming. Gay “rights.” Abortion “rights.” On these and so many other issues there is enlightenment, and then there is the Idiotic Other Side. PC liberalism’s power centers are the news media, the entertainment industry and academia and all are in the clutches of an unmistakable hypocrisy: Theirs is an ideology that preaches the freedom of thought and expression at every opportunity, yet practices absolute intolerance toward dissension.
Evolution is another one of those one-sided debates. We know the concept of Intelligent Design is stifled in academic circles. An entire documentary to state the obvious? You can see my reluctance to view it.
I went into the screening bored. I came out of it stunned.
Ben Stein’s extraordinary presentation documents how the worlds of science and academia not only crush debate on the origins of life, but also crush the careers of professors who dare to question the Darwinian hypothesis of evolution and natural selection.
Stein asks a simple question: What if the universe began with an intelligent designer, a designer named God? He assembles a stable of academics – experts all -- who dared to question Darwinist assumptions and found themselves “expelled” from intellectual discourse as a result. They include evolutionary biologist Richard Sternberg (sandbagged at the Smithsonian), biology professor Caroline Crocker (drummed out of George Mason University), and astrophysicist Guillermo Gonzalez (blackballed at Iowa State University).
That’s disturbing enough, but what Stein does next is truly shocking. He allows the principal advocates of Darwinism to speak their minds.
(Excerpt) Read more at mrc.org ...
If you have not read his book, you need not enter into the discussion. I have been a life scientist for over 40 years and able to understand other scientist.WTF are you blithering about? You didn't even know what I was referring to did you? *waits for furious googling and more claims of authority*
I saw 'The Empire Strikes Back' - - does that count?Yes snoogums it does. See you learned that science and education are merely plots by Darth Vader to indoctrinate you!
If you read my posts I have not supported the movie nor have I been critical of it. I have questioned your citation of Scientific American as an authority, especially when it has a history of being overtly incorrect on occasion. Again, you show your bias.Uuum... you really don't understand science. Remember Luminiferous aether?
” you realize we’re talking about *your* assertion that evolutionists believe that fully formed proteins come from lightning. So you agree you were lying/ignorant? “
You directly referred to the easily debunked Miller/Urey experiment when I referred to the line about lightning in the article, thereby exposing your ignorance:
” You’re the one conflating the electricity experiments(which successfully generated amino acids) and prebiotic protein evolution. “
Now i`ve educated you as to the why of Miller/Urey and of
the flaw of prebiotic protein evolution.
The probability of finding a functional protein among the possible amino acid sequences corresponding to a 150-residue protein is similarly 1 in 10 to the 77 power.(Axe 2004)
I`m bored with the likes of simplistic neo-darwinists such as yourself who always presume much and know little.
Adios.
Yes the movie is out - go see it! I am.
“A Beagle, a Daschhund and a Wolfhound were all once a Wolf”.
True, but there all still Canines.
Ben Stein lied about Richard Sternberg being fired from the Smithsonian.
So is Ben Stein not telling the truth throughout the film or just in this one detail?
Now i`ve educated you as to the why of Miller/Urey and of the flaw of prebiotic protein evolution.
The probability of finding a functional protein among the possible amino acid sequences corresponding to a 150-residue protein is similarly 1 in 10 to the 77 power.(Axe 2004)
I`m bored with the likes of simplistic neo-darwinists such as yourself who always presume much and know little.
Adios. :rolleyes: You can't think with any degree of rigor can you? *You're* the one that brought up proteins(not amino acids, a claim much easier to verify) exposing yourself as a. ignorant or b. dishonest. Actually I'm going for a and b. You're stupid *and* dishonest.
I’ll go ahead and shortcut this. The field of science that studies the origins of life is exobiology.
Someone actually did this in a lab.
Well, kind of.
He faked the initial conditions, they were nothing like the “primordial” earth,
but he did get organic compounds.
Too bad these “organic compounds” included formaldehyde and arsenic - chemicals actually hostile to life.
If you lack understanding there is no need to insult other people. Your behavior does not foster good discussion and therefore you will not take any more of time.Forgetting about ~150 years of research to make a strawman doesn't "foster good debate" either. Neither do baseless claims of authority. One would think a "life scientist" would be more up to date on the literature.
Isn’t Sci Am run by a bunch of gay activists these days?
The irony of homosexuals promoting evolution is just too much.
All biologists?
But somehow, none of them ever became a cat or a cow.
Good question. I have not seen the movie and have not posted an opinion of the movie or of Stein.
Not over such a limited time span.
We are talking 100,000,000 - 2,000,0000,000+ years worth of time.
A lot can happen in a 1,000,000 years.
I’ve been teasing them all day with this, and have gotten no response:
Don’t you know that the fossil record shows a complete unbroken chain of creatures from the single (self generated) cell all the way to homo sapiens, all of them with traceable slight variations leading one to another, and it even shows exactly how the Cambrian species explosion happened, and no one has ever felt the need to fake a fossil to support this theory?
That’s some funny sh!t right there.
Why are you supporting a movie you have yet to see?
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